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They could make ChatGPT++ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_J%2B%2B
ChatGPT#
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#933Here's tweet transcribing OpenAI's interim CEO Emmett Shear's views on AI safety, or see youtube video for original source. Some excerpts:
Preamble on his general pro-tech stance:
"I have a very specific concern about AI. Generally, I’m very pro-technology and I really believe in the idea that the upsides usually outweigh the downsides. Everything technology can be misused, but you should usually wait. Eventually, as we understand it better, you want to put in regulations. But regulating early is usually a mistake. When you do regulation, you want to be making regulations that are about reducing risk and authorizing more innovation, because innovation is usually good for us."
On why AI would be dangerous to humanity:
"If you build something that is a lot smarter than us—not like somewhat smarter, but much smarter than we are as we are than dogs, for example, like a big jump—that thing is intrinsically pretty dangerous. If it gets set on a goal that isn’t aligned with ours, the first instrumental step to achieving that goal is to take control. If this is easy for it because it’s really just that smart, step one would be to just kind of take over the planet. Then step two, solve my goal."
On his path to safe AI:
"Ultimately, to solve the problem of AI alignment, my biggest point of divergence with Eliezer Yudkowsky, who is a mathematician, philosopher, and decision theorist, comes from my background as an engineer. Everything I’ve learned about engineering tells me that the only way to ensure something works on the first try is to build lots of prototypes and models at a smaller scale and practice repeatedly. If there is a world where we build an AI that’s smarter than humans and we survive, it will be because we built smaller AIs and had as many smart people as possible working on the problem seriously."
On why skeptics need to stop side-stepping the debate:
"Here I am, a techno-optimist, saying that the AI issue might actually be a problem. If you’re rejecting AI concerns because we sound like a bunch of crazies, just notice that some of us worried about this are on the techno-optimist team. It’s not obvious why AI is a true problem. It takes a good deal of engagement with the material to see why, because at first, it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal. But the more you dig in, the more you realize the potential issues.
"I encourage people to engage with the technical merits of the argument. If you want to debate, like proposing a way to align AI or arguing that self-improvement won’t work, that’s great. Let’s have that argument. But it needs to be a real argument, not just a repetition of past failures."
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Ilya is much less active on Twitter than the others. The rumors that blamed him emerged and spread like wildfire and he did nothing to stop it because he probably only checks Twitter once a week.
One would think that he would be on Twitter this week.
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I think without looking at the contracts, we don't really know. Given this is all based on transformers from Google though, I am pretty sure MSFT with the right team could build a better LLM. The key ingredient appears to be mass GPU and infra, tbh, with a collection of engineers who know how to work at scale.
> I am pretty sure MSFT with the right team could build a better LLM. I wouldn’t count on that if Microsoft’s legal team does a review of the training data.
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In hindsight firing Sam was a self-destructing gamble by the OpenAI board. Initially it seemed Sam may have committed some inexcusable financial crime but doesn't look so anymore. Irony is that if a significant portion of OpenAI staff opt to join Microsoft, then Microsoft essentially killed their own $13B investment in OpenAI earlier this year. Better than acquiring for $80B+ I suppose.
If the change in $MSFT pre-open market cap (which has given up its gains at the time of writing, but still) of hundreds of billions of dollars is anything to go by, shareholders probably see this as spending a dime to get a dollar.
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#937Ilya posted this on Twitter: "I deeply regret my participation in the board's actions. I never intended to harm OpenAI. I love everything we've built together and I will do everything I can to reunite the company." https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028
It takes a lot of courage to do so after all this.
Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns
#938Ilya posted this on Twitter: "I deeply regret my participation in the board's actions. I never intended to harm OpenAI. I love everything we've built together and I will do everything I can to reunite the company." https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028
It takes a lot of courage to do so after all this.
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#939Well I give up. I think everyone is a "loser" in the current situation. With Ilya signing this I have literally no clue what to believe anymore. I was willing to give the board the benefit of the doubt since I figured non-profit > profit in terms of standing on principal but this timeline is so screwy I'm done. Ilya votes for and stands behind decision to remove Altman, Altman goes to MS, other employees want him bac…
There's no way to read any of this other than that the entire operation is a clown show. All respect to the engineers and their technical abilities, but this organization has demonstrated such a level of dysfunction that there can't be any path back for it. Say MS gets what it wants out of this move, what purpose is there in keeping OpenAI around? Wouldn't they be better off just hiring everybody? Is it just some kin…
The majority of people don't know or care about this. Branding is only impacted within the tech world, who are already criticial of OpenAI.
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#940Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly this. I saw another commenter raise this point about Tasha (and Helen, if I remember correctly) noting that her LinkedIn profile is filled with SV-related jargon and indulge-the-wife thinktanks but without any real experience taking products to market or scaling up technology companies. Given the pool of talent they could have chosen from their board makeup looks extremely poor.
> indulge-the-wife thinktanks Regardless of context, this is an incredibly demeaning comment. Shame on you