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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by proompter5 »

notatoad wrote: post #825
jlarcombe wrote: post #727

I know this will sound like a whinge but it's really a shame they removed the audio jack, it was so useful for simple sound/music projects.

that definitely sounds like a whinge. raspi is fundamentally an unfinished, everything-not-included product. most use cases require some sort of dongle, hat or other adapter. an audio jack (especially in a context where you're not using an HDMI device that you can get the audio from) is much more niche than a lot of other things that aren't included on-board, like storage or POE. if it's a trade between a built-in au…

Can I ask what you'll use the RTC for?

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by Liquid_Fire »

MR4D wrote: post #808

> PCIe 2.0 x1 interface Bummer. That just killed my need for a new one. Also, if those are micro-USB ports then they have ignored everything that happened since 2020.

Are you talking about the micro-HDMI ports? Because the USB ports in the pictures are fairly clearly USB-A, except for the power which is USB-C.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by jlarcombe »

spacechild1 wrote: post #886
jlarcombe wrote: post #878

Earlier quoted context omitted.

probably the way to go, but 'another thing to plug in' if you're building something for someone else to use

You need to plug in the headphones/speakers anyway, so it is just a little piece in between :)

this is true, but non-technical users (the likes of for whom my last pi project was built) get easily muddled!

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by jlarcombe »

bmitc wrote: post #880
jlarcombe wrote: post #877

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teensy is BRILLIANT - but a bit different to the Pi. It's quite convenient to have a 'real computer' you can toy around with directly on the device.

I have fallen out of love with Raspberry Pi due to the performance. In desktop mode, I have found it too lacking to be any fun. It even struggles to run the web browser. And things like Mathematica, that you get for free which is awesome, are just much too sluggish to be very much fun.

Yes, although it sounds like the Pi 5 will be a significant step up in this regard. To be honest for what I was doing, Pi 4 was easily good enough. It was just a bit more convenient to be able to get media assets etc on to the device directly, implement a simple UI, etc etc.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by hajile »

tomcam wrote: post #643
hajile wrote: post #612

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm much more surprised that they decided to launch with a GPU that would have been considered awful if it had been released with previous pi four years ago.

Would you consider it better than no GPU at all?

The recent crop of unrefined, made-for-experimenters RISC-V chips that have GPUs that are a LOT faster. Add an extra $0.50 to the chip cost and use an out-of-the-box Mali GPU that's several times faster and has better driver support courtesy of ARM (who now support the open source drivers).

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by notatoad »

proompter5 wrote: post #931
notatoad wrote: post #825

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that definitely sounds like a whinge. raspi is fundamentally an unfinished, everything-not-included product. most use cases require some sort of dongle, hat or other adapter. an audio jack (especially in a context where you're not using an HDMI device that you can get the audio from) is much more niche than a lot of other things that aren't included on-board, like storage or POE. if it's a trade between a built-in au…

Can I ask what you'll use the RTC for?

No RTC means your time is incorrect until something sets it. usually NTP, assuming the device connects to the internet right away. if it doesn't connect to the internet right away, then you just get a wrong time. it means that for any device that ever reboots, there's some amount of logging that has untrustworthy timestamps.

A battery-powered RTC means that any logs from the device aren't inherently untrustworthy.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by snvzz »

surajrmal wrote: post #276
snvzz wrote: post #190

Sadly built on legacy ISA, still ARM instead of the open standard RISC-V. They wasted the opportunity to go RISC-V with Pi 5. I am surprised they still haven't figured out how to accept USB power with higher voltage than 5V. It'll thus continue to be a pain to power. Apparently it isn't all that efficient anymore as evident from their active cooler add-on. It looks like the performance will be similar to the incoming…

There are a lot of good reasons to not jump the gun on riscv. You're not going to get the same performance for the same price point on riscv at the moment. A lot of the existing software ecosystem still hasn't been ported over to riscv either.

There's no such thing as jumping the gun on RISC-V.

If you're in the industry and not using RISC-V, you're already late relative to your peers.

And you will be left behind should you drag.

We will sadly have to watch it happen to Raspberry Pi 5.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by cptskippy »

doomemax wrote: post #138
cptskippy wrote: post #35

Doh! I was just able to purchase my first Pi4 this month!

Depending on the project, a Pi 4 might still be the better option! What are you planning on using it for?

I was just pointing out the irony. Pi4s and compute modules have been unobtanium for so long. I finally got my hands on Pi4 and the Pi5 is announced.
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