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Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by perilunar »

apatheticonion wrote: post #847

If the iPhone or iPhone Pro could be connected to a USB-C dock with a keyboard, mouse and external monitor (or two) and display full fat MacOS; It would be the most impressive mobile device ever created. I could imagine companies issuing iPhones with MDM and corporate credentials preconfigured. As a developer, that would be a pretty cool workflow. I already ssh into a remote box to get faster development performance…

This. My phone is already more powerful than my 9 year old laptop (but less storage), and doesn't get used nearly as much. So much wasted potential.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by mrtksn »

apatheticonion wrote: post #847

If the iPhone or iPhone Pro could be connected to a USB-C dock with a keyboard, mouse and external monitor (or two) and display full fat MacOS; It would be the most impressive mobile device ever created. I could imagine companies issuing iPhones with MDM and corporate credentials preconfigured. As a developer, that would be a pretty cool workflow. I already ssh into a remote box to get faster development performance…

That's just too niche of a use case IMHO. Samsung is doing it anyway but I'm yet to see anyone using it.

Companies seem to prefer thin client solutions where the employees simply connect to the office workstations. That way, they don't have to provide expensive light and powerful computers, anything that can connect to the internet and stream the image of the desktop does the job and they don't have to deal with the security implications of having to manage a device which is outside of the company network.

Sure, the iPhone can act as the think client but you still need to provide the screen, keyboard and mouse so maybe just slap a cheap computer to those and don't bother with providing company phone which would definitely be more expensive.

So the use case boils down to people that for some reason have access to a screen, keyboard and mouse in many places but don't have computers at these places so they provide their phones as computers. Alternatively, maybe people who would like to save money by having one computer for everything is also a target audience but AFAIK Apple doesn't go after people who want to save money.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by perilunar »

Jeslijar wrote: post #735
dylan604 wrote: post #14

That whole presentation could have been 30 minutes shorter. It's a product announcement not an investors meeting. Show me the products. Make a sustainability PR as a separate piece. Get your name in the news twice. Seems strange

I for one don't understand how sustainability and a yearly release schedule can go hand in hand. Why isn't it a 2 or 3+ year release cycle? Remove the need to upgrade, make spare parts and reuse and recycling more common. Maximize lifespan of devices. Yearly upgrades of consumer electronics is a pretty non-sustainable idea. Imagine if every year everybody tossed their television, monitor, computer, phone, tablet, hea…

> Remove the need to upgrade

There's no need to upgrade yearly. They can release whenever they want, but I'm only upgrading every few years at most.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by kimburgess »

apatheticonion wrote: post #847

If the iPhone or iPhone Pro could be connected to a USB-C dock with a keyboard, mouse and external monitor (or two) and display full fat MacOS; It would be the most impressive mobile device ever created. I could imagine companies issuing iPhones with MDM and corporate credentials preconfigured. As a developer, that would be a pretty cool workflow. I already ssh into a remote box to get faster development performance…

You can already do that with an iPad (sans fat OS). If you're using Blink Shell (https://blink.sh) the external display is independent of what's on the iPad too, which works really neatly. This is the exact setup I used as my main dev machine in a previous role.

Would be very nice to see if this works on the new iPhones. A thin client with decent security in your pocket with keyboard/mouse/display at both home and work seems like a very approachable computing setup.

Photo for reference: https://twitter.com/_______kim/status/1348736952330301440

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by kranke155 »

fieldcny wrote: post #791

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

The idea that computerised phone upgrades are a metric for the progress of our society (instead of hmm reducing hunger and suffering in the world) is revealing

What else do you really want from this technology ?

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by Micoloth »

evolveyourmind wrote: post #329

I can't understand why they invest so much in gaming. Gaming on such small devices is too uncomfortable, both for your eyes and your posture. In addition, with cloud gaming you can basically run any PC/Console game on any device provided a good-enough connection (eg. Nvidia NOW, Xbox cloud gaming etc)

The other comments are right in saying mobile gaming is huge.

But, if you are referring specifically to the new GPU with accelerated raytracing, I want to add something more.. Remember that for many years now, every innovation that Apple has produced has been secretly developing towards AR!

For this reason it makes perfect sense.. Raytracing is SUPER important for the kind of rendering needed to make AR/VR look realistic

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by bluescrn »

fieldcny wrote: post #791

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

At this point it's the degradation of the non-user-replaceable battery that's driving upgrades.

Having to get a phone to an Apple store, let alone mail it in for a 'battery service' and have no phone for a few days, is a surprisingly big obstacle to just replacing the battery and keeping an older phone running for another few years.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by stevenhuang »

8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #393

Is anybody else somewhat underwhelmed by the innovation here? Faster CPU, different colors, new case, better camera, better battery, thinner bezels etc. Same thing we see every.. single.. year.. I'm glad they're taking risks with the Vision Pro, but it feels like the phone has become a highly conservative platform. Maybe this is just the reality of having a product that sells as many units as the iPhone does every si…

This rhetoric is strange to see. It's a smartphone. What kind of innovation do you expect?

Large jumps in design language don't happen out of nowhere. Design is an iterative process that more often than not is limited by what technology can offer. Not to mention cultural acceptance.

Phones will remain phones until technological progress makes it economical to explore the more esoteric design spaces you're thinking of.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by m4rtink »

bluescrn wrote: post #937
fieldcny wrote: post #791

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

At this point it's the degradation of the non-user-replaceable battery that's driving upgrades. Having to get a phone to an Apple store, let alone mail it in for a 'battery service' and have no phone for a few days, is a surprisingly big obstacle to just replacing the battery and keeping an older phone running for another few years.

Not to mention lack of software updates for many otherwise perfectly fine Android phones + lack of drivers/specs/image signing/locked bootloaders making it hard for community to take over.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by chx »

nashashmi wrote: post #571
bombcar wrote: post #11

Honestly for me the best part is the USB-C. Every year it's a new camera, new whatever, but USB-C is going to mean I can get rid of all these lightning cables. Not increasing the price is nice, I guess. Will have to buy more USB-C cables, though. (Technically the low highest end phone is higher, but higher spec, too). It comes with one USB-C to USB-C charging cable - not sure if it is a data cable, also. Pre-order Fr…

The USB-C was supposed to do more than just allow you to change cables. It was supposed to be a Dex-like, Docking Station extensible pocket computer. The iPad Pro is like that and their extended desktop is called Apple Studio Display. https://support.apple.com/en-us/102286

It does that.

Every iPhone with USB C has DisplayPort alternate mode, it was not particularly hard to do because all these Apple Axx SoC have a DisplayPort output just in case it lands in an Apple TV later.

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