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Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by DoctorNick »

zo1 wrote: post #619
DoctorNick wrote: post #598

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I mean, what are said documentaries about the nazis like? Are they presenting an uncritical viewpoint? I don't think I've ever seen a documentary about the nazis not include the context of all the horrible shit they did

Not OP. They're pushing an agenda is the general criticism. E.g. I'm all for them not excluding minorities. If the show does good, it does good. It's a universal unassailable good/win. But when they want to enforce quotas and promoting DEI content synthetically and unnaturally, then they've crossed a line.

And there it is. Lemme guess, you lost your shit when LOTR included a black elf, right?

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by genewitch »

tekknik wrote: post #845
genewitch wrote: post #768

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the last time i did this, it was with House, M.D., and it was with downloaded copies (to ensure correct subtitles, right?). Episode came out whatever day, a group of us would gather the next evening and watch it together. We had a blind person and two deaf people in the group. The only thing netflix (and possibly others, i wouldn't know) have done to improve that situation is adding descriptive audio service, which b…

I get where you’re coming from on modern TV shows as I still enjoy 80s-90s shows, and some 70s shows more than most modern shows. But a majority of what you listed here is clearly emotional ranting. If you for once believe 75% of shows are law enforcement related then it sounds like you’re not looking deep enough. Granted there are a lot but nowhere near 75%. You also stereotyped a whole generation, though I agree th…

i said "a plurality (and majority, up to ~75%)". I was wrong. Sorry. it's 70% on at least CBS, and more than 50% across all networks.

> Of the 69 scripted television dramas that aired on the big four US broadcast networks (CBS, NBC, Fox, and ABC) in the last year-and-a-half, 35 were about law enforcement, according to a Quartz analysis. CBS was responsible for 16 of those on its own. About 70% of the network’s dramatic programming from 2019-2020 were about cops. [0]

And that's "Dramas", i guess if you consider "all programming, including for example comedies" the ratio goes down to a peak of 28.7%. however:

> Even many of the non-cop dramas on these channels are so cop-adjacent that one could reasonably argue they are also about law enforcement. CBS’s Madam Secretary follows the fictional US secretary of state, a former CIA analyst. Evil follows a forensic psychologist investigating supernatural incidents. Blood & Treasure follows a former FBI agent teaming up with an art thief to track down a terrorist.

And now, you said: >> You also stereotyped a whole generation

I didn't, if i stereotyped anyone it was cinematographers that grew up with that as "normal", or, if they didn't grow up with that, at least consider it normal.

[0] https://qz.com/1872176/half-of-us-network-tv-dramas-are-abou...

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by hot_gril »

tekknik wrote: post #843
hot_gril wrote: post #475

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I found the iTunes family sharing stuff too complicated and just lent my password to my family instead. Which I wouldn't do with friends because that's actually a lot of access.

How anyone can find Apple family sharing difficult to setup is interesting as it takes I think a total of 6 taps to get setup with your first family member. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201088

It's not that, it just seemed like more moving parts. I don't know what it's going to share and what it's not, or if all purchases are eligible (as it turns out, some aren't).

As for the setup, it'd probably start like this: "Mom, what's your Apple ID password?" "I don't know."

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by autoexec »

seunosewa wrote: post #837
autoexec wrote: post #631

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> That feels somewhat naive. People don't only belong to one friendship group. We did exactly that during pandemic lockdowns. We used a browser extension that let us sync our netflix viewing while we had a live chat running during the show. It meant we could all talk about the last episode during the week and people had something to look forward to. It's perfectly do-able unless you're actually trying to keep your fr…

What's the browser extension you used?

I'm pretty sure it was Netflix Party which I guess has since changed their name to Teleparty (probably to avoid pissing off netflix)

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by DeathArrow »

mboehm wrote: post #929
DeathArrow wrote: post #896

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I pay 5 euros for 5G plan with unlimited calls and almost unlimited Internet. You can even take 4 plans for 2 euros each at promotion. :) And 10Gbit FTTH from the same provider is just 12 euros. :)

Which country/provider is that?

Romania / Digi

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by prepend »

ModernMech wrote: post #909
prepend wrote: post #891

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> I think following the law is ethical, and copyright is not only the law, it follows directly from the Constitution. Copyright was 14 years at the time of the Constitution. If it was still that, I’d have no problem waiting it out and only watching material 14 years old. Following laws isn’t always ethical. The constitution also allowed slavery. Do you think owning slaves was ethical? There’s lots of instances where…

Let's take a moment and recap this discussion. I put out a call for a "full throated" defense of pirating. In your reply, your full throated defense was that: "pirating still gives me the best user interface" To support this argument, you cited the various inconveniences you face when dealing with copyrighted works. Only after more prompting have you landed on a high-minded, ethical argument. Why didn't you argue thi…

> Everything you listed was changed due to robust and organized social movements to effect that change. Because the societal ills were so egregious, society mobilized to neutralize those.

People had illegal gay sex for centuries before society mobilized. So it was the groundswell of “unethical” activity that eventually led to social movement. Same for drugs and whatnot.

I think the societal change for legalizing what I think is ethical (and what billions of people think is ethical enough to do despite laws) will come about after many years of people just not caring and doing what’s convenient.

The convenient argument is just the most straightforward and I think why people continue to pirate. So that answers your question. All the other parts are going into additional detail that you requested.

It’s like if you asked someone why they illegally smoked pot 40 years ago they’d likely say “because I like to get high.” That doesn’t mean that there aren’t deep reasons why, just that that is the most important one.

Obviously legalizing pot cost corporations lots of lost revenue. And modernizing copyright will cost corporations lots of lost revenue as well.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by KomoD »

mdrzn wrote: post #892
hedora wrote: post #852

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I wish consumer protection laws applied to cell phone providers. I shopped around a while back, and walked into an AT&T, TMobile, and Verizon store. They all had big ass signs in the front window saying $25/month per line (with a bunch of fine print that can't be read from outside the store). Of course, none of them will honor that pricing. Also, none of them actually publish their prices. The best I got was some han…

This sounds insane and I'm incredibly happy for the situation we have in the EU. You see "9,99€ / month" for a mobile plan? That's the full price they will take from you each month, no more. Only exception being the home fiber lines, which start at 24,99€/month but progressively increase every couple months to reach upwards of 30€/month.

> Only exception being the home fiber lines, which start at 24,99€/month but progressively increase every couple months to reach upwards of 30€/month.

I (Sweden) haven't seen this before, where has this been used?

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Post by taeric »

shkkmo wrote: post #928
taeric wrote: post #924

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My point was that nobody has ever used household for two houses. Ever. If you can find a place that has been done, I'd be swayed. But I have never ever seen that. The definition posted above has family/social unit and house/dwelling unit. Reading that as one of those being plural is awkward and feels flat out in bad faith to conversation. Now, I will fully cede that Netflix has redefined their terms and are also at f…

> My point was that nobody has ever used household for two houses. Ever. If you can find a place that has been done, I'd be swayed. But I have never ever seen that. Then maybe you should have spent some time looking before so strongly asserting something that is flat out wrong. Go look at some definitions. There are plenty of legal definitions, in addition to dictionary ones, that clearly contradict your take. The ke…

Point me to some. Seriously, the definition linked here clearly has household as the combination. Where are households defined as multiple houses?

For fun, try https://www.prb.org/resources/what-is-a-household/ which says "A household is defined by the U.S. Census Bureau as all the people who occupy a single housing unit, regardless of their relationship to one another."

Did they get it wrong? https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/cps/technical-docume... seems to agree with them.

Or, maybe, you are just trying to gaslight folks and not actually arguing in good faith...

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Post by nasmorn »

gnicholas wrote: post #775
jeroen wrote: post #678

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I don’t have a static ip-address. I am curious to see how they will deal with that.

Perhaps you have to designate a primary device, and then any of the secondary devices that access from the same IP can migrate for X weeks/months before having to be on the same IP as the primary?

That is going to be quite the schlep with his second houses tv every couple of weeks. I would cancel too

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Post by fzimmermann89 »

radlad wrote: post #755
otikik wrote: post #661

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I would even object to calling people “consumers”, only because the conversation involves a (potential) service. It’s like calling us “bipeds” when we talk about us on a shoe-making context.

Well, when the shoe fits...

*shoes.
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