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Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by thorax »

nextworddev wrote: post #376
doctoboggan wrote: post #83

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Honestly I suspect for anyone technical `langchain` will always be the way to go. You just have so much more control and the amount of "tools" available will always be greater. The only think that scares me a little bit is that we are letting these LLMs write and execute code on our machines. For now the worst that could happen is some bug doing something unexpected, but with GPT-9 or -10 maybe it will start hiding b…

Unpopular Opinion: Having used Langchain, I felt it was a big pile of spaghetti code / framework with poor dev experience. It tries to be too cute and it’s poorly documented so you have to read the source almost all the time. Extremely verbose to boot

Yeah I wrote my own plunkylib (which I don't have great docs for yet) which is more about having the LLM and prompts in (nestable) yaml/txt rather than how so many people hard code those in their source. I do like some of the features in langchain, but it doesn't really fit my coding style.

Pretty sure there will be a thousand great libraries for this soon.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by pbronez »

wernst wrote: post #759
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I think ChatGPT plugins may be what solves this problems. Does IMDB have an API?

Sites like IMDB feel like they might be in a pickle. What happens to their ad revenue if they expose their API and no one navigates to their site anymore?

Could be a good thing. Maybe this is the push the world needs to create a business model around providing useful information without surveillance capitalism smeared on top.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by thorax »

modriano wrote: post #814
chatmasta wrote: post #353

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Pshhh... I think it's awesome. The faster we build the future, the better. What annoys me is this is just further evidence that their "AI Safety" is nothing but lip-service, when they're clearly moving fast and breaking things. Just the other day they had a bug where you could see the chat history of other users! (Which, btw, they're now claiming in a modal on login was due to a "bug in an open source library" - anyo…

As the past decade has shown us, moving fast and breaking things to secure unfathomable wealth has caused or enabled or perpetrated: * Genocide against the Rohingya [0] * A grotesquely unqualified reality TV character became President by a razor thin vote margin across three states because Facebook gave away the data of 87M US users to Cambridge Analytica [1], and that grotesquely unqualified President packed the Sup…

> I don't think GPT-4 will be a big deal in a month

Why do you think that? Competition? Can you elaborate?

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by lupire »

ren_engineer wrote: post #267
celestialcheese wrote: post #39

This is a big deal for openai. Been working with homegrown toolkits and langchain, the open source version of this, for a number of months and the ability to call out to vectorstores, serpapis, etc, and chaining together generations and data-retrieval really unlocks the power of the LLMs. That being said, I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins. OpenAI and their models rule the day today, but who knows wh…

genius strategy by OpenAI to give their "customers" access to lower quality models to show what end users want, then rugpull them by building out clones of those developer's products with a better model Similar to what Facebook and Twitter did, just clone popular projects built using the API and build it directly into the product while restricting the API over time. Anybody using OpenAI APIs is basically just paying…

Amazon retail is the king of this. Offer services to companies, collect their details, and then clone their business.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by lupire »

93po wrote: post #178

Holy shit. Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers. Up to date information and performing original research on it is huge. As someone else said, Google is dead unless they massively shift in the next 6 months. No longer do I need to sift through pages of "12 best recipes for Thanksgiving" blog spam - OpenAI will do this for me an…

How sad is this if true, that Google's fortunes are built on spamming people with bullshit, and people are finding a more efficient way to collect bullshit.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by lupire »

93po wrote: post #467
willmeyers wrote: post #392

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It's exciting and cool, but don't quit your job based on an emotional decision I'm just skeptical on how OpenAI fixes the blog spam issue you mentioned. Im sure someone has already started doing the math on how to game these systems and ensure that when you ask ChatGPT for recipe recs, it's going to spout the same spam (maybe worded a bit differently) and we'll soon all get tired of it again. Everything's changing, b…

Definitely not an emotional decision. I strongly believe we're going to see a massive shift for rational reasons :) OpenAI fixes this issue by not giving you two pages of the history of this recipe and the grandmother that originated it and what the author's thoughts are about the weather. It's just the recipe. No ads. No referral links. No slideshows. You don't have to click through three useless websites to find on…

You really want a recipe where the steps are guessed probabilistically? You'll end up with a turkeycakesoup or something.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by metaltyphoon »

dingclancy wrote: post #831
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This might be the biggest threat to Google search (apart from OS vendors changing defaults) in a long long time. One problem Google faces is that they have to make money via search. Several other products are subsidized via search, so taking a hit on search revenue itself is out of the question. Compared to Microsoft which makes money on other stuff, search (and knowledge discovery) is more like a complement, on whic…

The biggest threat to Google is if people stops going to google.com. It does not matter now if ChatGPT is successful with their product. the fact that you can take these LLMs and put them anywhere EXCEPT google.com, Google is f'd up. The last generation was creating the habit of going to google.com before jumping off to other websites. That era is over. I rarely go to google.com now. If the LLM is in ChatGPT + Notion…

I’m sure I’m not the first, but I have completely stopped using google.com since January.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by luismmolina »

VoodooJuJu wrote: post #539
93po wrote: post #467

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Definitely not an emotional decision. I strongly believe we're going to see a massive shift for rational reasons :) OpenAI fixes this issue by not giving you two pages of the history of this recipe and the grandmother that originated it and what the author's thoughts are about the weather. It's just the recipe. No ads. No referral links. No slideshows. You don't have to click through three useless websites to find on…

This is absolutely an emotionally impulsive decision. I implore you to reconsider. If you've always wondered about and scoffed at how people fall for things like Nigerian Prince scams and cryptocurrency HELOC bets, this is it, what you're experiencing right now, this intense FOMO, it's the same thing that fools cool wine aunts into giving their savings to Nigerian princes. Tread lightly. Stay frosty.

I saw and still see denial in the art, photography and design community. But with each release of Standard Diffusion and Midjourney is obvious that photographers are becoming obsolete. As one human who decided to change my job 6 months ago based on what I saw in the field of AI, I can say it was a good decision. I believe that the same will happen to a lot of developers and people working in the tech industry in the following year.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by Vespasian »

flakeoil wrote: post #927
Vespasian wrote: post #894

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It is but it also shows current limitation of the reasoning skills of this models. A super human AGI would easily be able to use tools like Wolfram Alpha and also derive most of it on the fly or from memory just by thinking about it. If you set your expectations to AGI (right now) you will be disappointed but that doesn't mean it's not immensely useful. Unfounded hype and real technological progress seem to go hand i…

Should Einstein not be allowed to use a calculator and instead waste his time on performing the calculations by hand?

Obviously yes. And how they use these tools is important.

But it's quite interesting to see what these models can do internally and what they can't do yet. It possibly outlines future research areas (beyond " more scale") and opportunities for competitors to enter the market (which is usually better for consumers and society as a whole).

Maybe that's the difference between productization and academic reasearch.

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