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Large distributed systems that have already been built can often limp along for a very long time before falling over. I would give Twitter at least another 3-6 months for stuff to start breaking.

On what level do you mean? 2fa already broke at one point (no clue if they fixed it I don't use two-factor as my twitter account is not terribly important)

You'll know the level when it happens - I am referring to multi-day outages. 2fa being broken doesn't surprise me at all. I bet the didn't want to pay the bill.

To be clear, it could take years.

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Twitter has less bots yets more activity than ever. In what dimension do these Hacker news posters live?

Silicon Valley CA where the only politics is left, and even more left. Twitter post Elon is Awesome, They are crying foul now that rules are actually being evenly enforced instead of just on the right. The activists that claim to be journalists having to follow actual rules for once in their life What is the saying... To the privileged equality looks like oppression, well that is what the Activists that work for main…

Do you still feel this way after they suspended PG?

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Thanks, but as I learned when I was running HN, being a regular user of a forum (which the moderator necessarily is) and writing essays are fundamentally incompatible. If you're known to be a regular user of a forum, then when someone says something about you and you don't reply, it reads as a tacit admission that they're correct. And when you write essays people say all kinds of things about you. The combination is…

Rule #1 of any forum is don't moderate the forum that you are active on. Musk is finding out the hard way why this is the case. Happy to see your post here though! Edit: and while we have you here briefly, Happy Holidays!

Huh, I'm one of several mods for a Sub-Reddit. Works fine. Only things that changed are a) my own comment quality standard is higher and b) the way I read other comments. Now, I scan comments for rule infractions, which lessens my reading enjoyment a bit.

Also never observed a problem between mods and other users in other Sub-Reddits. Maybe because mods on Reddit are not that visible?

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> His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. I used to think that too, but I've since come across a story that SpaceX actually has people who's informal job is to manage him, and they present their ideas in such a way that he thinks they're his, in order to keep him happy. He's mostly there to bring money and hype. No idea if that story is true, but honestly, it would explain some things. The impression he's bee…

I did my PhD under possibly the most narcissistic, ruthless, and petty professors anyone around me had ever heard of, so I might be able to comment on this. I and the few people who managed to actually graduate with our sanity intact (out of like 50) learned to play this game you suggested where we have to play to their egos, and try and salvage their shitty, shitty ideas into workable projects that will end with us…

> The interesting thing is my professor kinda knew we do this, he just acknowledged it as part of the dance of their system.

Professor's diary: It's so tiring coming up with broken experiments that still have some possible merit, but the system works, and my role is clear. If only the benefits of working under constraints weren't so clear with regard to innovation, they they are what they are and this farce continues for all of us. Maybe I'll finally feel like the private sector is the way to go next yet. Probably not, but who knows.

Also, this sounds like I've heard the military described at times, expecially in war, where the upper echelons come out with wile ideas that make no sense on the ground and mid-level officers pull wild solutions out of their asses and whatever works ends up being copied.

I could see something like this possibly developing as a natural solution when all you look at is the output and not the process, and provide a rigid framework within which different behavior can be iterated until it stabilizes on something that works. That, unsurprisingly to me, has similarities in how ML works, given given these are basically institutions that act as machines.

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> They supposedly have an entire handbook on "managing Elon" for deflecting his weird requests and framing things in a way that doesn't provoke his ire. I heard that too. Is it just a rumour or do we know this is true? And if it's true at SpaceX, is it also true at Tesla?

Regarding your first question, see here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34042340 I see no reason why Tesla would be any different.

That reads like fiction to me.

Someone pseudonymously posting on Tumblr about being an early SpaceX intern is not in anyway a reliable source. The story sounds 100% made up.

At any rate, "managing up" is a normal thing for people in the management hierarchy everywhere.

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Remember how George Lucas made Star Wars and became the genius billionaire who could do no wrong. Then he got a divorce and made Howard the Duck (quite possibly the worst movie of all time). I think the same thing is happening here. As a startup founder you have guardrails, spouses, investors. You have Brian De Palma rewriting the opening trailer crawl, you have Marcia Lucas helping the edit, and you have your old pr…

OT, but that take on Lucas has to stop. Was he surrounded by many capable people that contributed to his works in great ways? Of course, that's what collaborative art of movie making is all about. Spielberg movies would probably suffer a lot without Kahn editing them, so would Scorsese's without Thelma Schoonmaker, etc.. Look at the other world-building things Lucas did to gain some perspective on him as an artist -…

I don't want to dunk on Lucas specifically here. I just want to underscore that this kind of "I did it all myself" mentality can infect anyone - even our most creative and talented human beings.

The technological achievements of ILM and Lucasfilm stand out to me here. Lucas himself is not an expert in any form of VFX whatsoever, but he left the storytelling to himself, and trusted in experts to execute on his vision at a certain point.

No one doubts that the prequels were technologically impressive (Jar Jar included) even if the storytelling was lacklustre, but here Lucas stepped back an enabled his team of experts to do what they did best.

When you're young and ambitious you may be more likely to ask for help, and folks may be more willing to give you help. When your in your 50s and a billionare, it just seems that as a society we make it culturally improper for men to ask for help. Sadly, this is also a demographic with a disproprotionately high suicide rate...

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Whoa whoa whoa! Worst movie of all time? I still mutter “Slice salami!” To myself while cutting things.

It was a feature film based on a comic book. A trailblazer…

Have you seen Guardians of Galaxy 2? They're bringing Howard back to the MCU yo!

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This wasn't an achievement for SpaceX. Lots of very talented people wanted to work on space based on passion alone. It just came down to providing funding at a time space privatization was an uncertain venture. Compare to Neuralink mostly being a failure.

There is still something special about spacex. There are many other space companies that get the same passionate people but they get very little done by comparison.

Be careful not to assume the something special is Musk rather than it succeeding in spite of him.

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You mean he hired product managers?

I'm curious why do you think SpaceX and Tesla are market leaders in their niches? Is Elon the only person who hires product managers?

Tesla's aren't even good cars they are great batteries attached to mediocre cars sold at an unprofitable price rendered profitable only by government handouts.

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I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

pg, yes Elon's $8 a month and now this has generated terrible optics. But like Donald Trump with politicians, isn't he just saying the quiet part out loud that most capitalists actually do ? I think it is valuable to examine why we were against Donald Trump doing, but somehow in the broader picture everyone was doing it (e.g. Bill Clinton cracking down on "illegal immigrants", building border fences etc.) The importa…

Other presidents built border walls and tried to put the brakes on immigration. They on the other hand didn't pretend we were under attack by an army of brown people who could only be defeated by destroying immigrants civil rights, punishing them by stealing their children, spending 10s of billions of additional funds building an unfeasible great wall of America, and ending democracy in order to install dear leader the only hope for the white race about to be replaced by brown people and liberals. This is to say context matters.

Trump didn't just say the quiet part out loud he turned it into a battle flag for hate and bigotry. Bringing him into the discussion basically ensures you wont have a good discussion on anything else its the current variation of Godwins Law.

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