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Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by xwowsersx »

karp773 wrote: post #391
xwowsersx wrote: post #379

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Without really knowing you and without knowing what issue you have with Taibbi such that Musk's association with him makes him lose any credibility for you, what value we do we gain from this? Not trying to be rude, I genuinely just don't get what we're supposed to get from this. Is it supposed to be obvious to "anyone with the right opinions" why Taibbi is problematic? It's not obvious to me...Taibbi seems like a fi…

Just sharing my opinion. As I said above, I am pro-free speech, that inludes free speech for myself. I do not know why you have a problem with this.

Oh I don't have a problem with you sharing your opinion. I'm just sharing mine. My point is that your comment might be more illuminating if you explained the reason why he loses credibility by associating with Taibbi. Without offering some kind of explanation, it's hard to see how your comment really offers anything of value. I'm genuinely not trying to be rude and I'm not suggesting you aren't free to share whatever you'd like to.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by xcrunner529 »

GauntletWizard wrote: post #445
romellem wrote: post #296

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Did you read your own source? The Biden team never asked Twitter staff to “handle” anything. They forwarded tweets that [violated twitter’s ToS][1], a Twitter staff member forwarded them for review, and at that point the reviewer said they “handled these.” That’s what content moderation is supposed to do! [1]: https://twitter.com/parkebench/status/1598841731763810304

Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest? I think it's a good thing that we're having a discussion on when the Whitehouse is applying pressure for tweets to be removed, and how nicely asking is or isn't pressure. I actually think that these actions were entirely legal. The Biden campaign and the Trump administration can and should be allowed to ask for posts to be reviewed. But I think we'd damn well take a close…

Good thing this wasn’t the Whitehouse since Biden wasn’t president. Wow.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by xcrunner529 »

yucky wrote: post #838
zzzeek wrote: post #293

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Funny story, Biden was not "in the government" at that time. You're thinking of Trump. That's who was president in 2020. Does it still rub you the wrong way that Trump was "the government" telling Twitter to remove speech?

Biden was Vice President at the time of the emails in question, which is what the Hunter Biden story was always about. That the story was suppressed by Twitter while Trump was in office isn't relevant. The suppression of the story is what matters, since if those emails were reported as accurate it would have wide ranging impact on the election. In fact if the story had been allowed to come out in a timely matter, the…

Lol that’s not true at all. There’s no retroactive interpretation of the first amendment. Twitter was not asked by the current government to do anything. They’re a private company and are allowed their free speech. If you’re not just some Russian droid living in a shit hole maybe go back to school. This is embarrassing for you.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by anon291 »

I don't understand why the discussion is centered around porn when the NY post article had no pornography and yet Twitter banned it even in private dms, a punishment previously only reserved for child porn..

Is the hunter Biden story on the same level as child porn? Is that the moral equivalence you want to draw?

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by fingal »

Yuyudo_Comiketo wrote: post #843

This is how you promote a technocrat to be later put in the role of the head of one world government: You censor, mute, cancel all dissent for years. You turn homes to prisons and enforce inhumane conditions for people to just be able to "get back to normalcy". You turn voluntary to compulsory. You deprive people of individuality by defacing them with masks. You school their obedience with barefaced surveillance. You…

That sounds unlikely.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by rvz »

erlich wrote: post #833
alsodumb wrote: post #300

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Why does Verge try so hard to show that Elon did something bad? A congressman has to change his email address? Seriously? And these are journalists making these titles? A quick Google search reveals that his Gmail address is everywhere. In fact, he tweeted his personal Gmail address a while ago: https://twitter.com/RoKhanna/status/802758241570541568?s=20&...

The obvious answer is revenue. Most of tech is left. The more outrage the more clicks. I don't think people realize how desperate these news orgs are.

There you go, they are unable to stop because that is where their readers and audience is. Still on Twitter.

> I don't think people realize how desperate these news orgs are.

This is why the Verge hasn't moved off of Twitter and had to grift their readers for Black Friday and Cyber Monday affiliate links littered everywhere on the homepage and advertised on Twitter.

The desperation is there, and they are very good at hiding it.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by candybar »

brchn wrote: post #873
romellem wrote: post #296

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Did you read your own source? The Biden team never asked Twitter staff to “handle” anything. They forwarded tweets that [violated twitter’s ToS][1], a Twitter staff member forwarded them for review, and at that point the reviewer said they “handled these.” That’s what content moderation is supposed to do! [1]: https://twitter.com/parkebench/status/1598841731763810304

The fact that they listen to the government requests is the scary part. They should just have a consistent content moderation policy and enforce it.

When Twitter tried to just apply consistent content moderation policies and right-wing politicians ended up being banned for repeated violations of Twitter ToS, there was a ton of outrage, among much of the exact same group of people that are talking about how bad it is that politicians appear to have a direct line of communication with Twitter policy teams.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by nathias »

jongjong wrote: post #823
nathias wrote: post #691

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the life of a politically inconvenient story: 1. it's conspiracy theory 2. it was obvious to everyone 3. forgotten

So true but I don't think the gaslighting aspect will be forgotten so easily. First, we were gaslit about our understanding of the facts, then we were gaslit about having being gaslit. Many public figures have lost all credibility.

remember the Panama papers?

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by lazyeye »

chrisbaker98 wrote: post #728
boc wrote: post #576

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Nobody on the left cares about protecting Hunter Biden. IF he broke any laws, then he should be in jail. AFAIK, there's no current legal case against him. What you're seeing here is the "left" learning to not take everything the right screams about at face value. They watched Hillary get dragged through the mud with Benghazi over absolutely nothing of substance, including months of Congressional hearings. Thus this n…

What was actually on Hunter Biden's laptop? Can someone give me a link to a succinct, non-partisan list of facts?

Joe Biden (AKA "The Big Guy") was taking a cut from Hunter Biden's ridiculous business dealings with foreign entities (otherwise known as "influence peddling"). With zero relevant business experience Hunter Biden was getting highly lucrative business deals with all kinds of shady people connected to foreign govts.

Joe Biden denied any involvement with his son's business but there is evidence that he was involved from witnesses (including attending business meetings) and emails on the laptop to indicate he was involved but they were conscious of the need to publicly at least, keep his name out of it.

It's the kind of thing for which, if it was Trump, we would have seen 24/7 media meltdown for years but because its a Biden well "media companies are privately owned and can do what they want".

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