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That doesnt solve the problem of slaughtering a sentient being for 5 minutes of taste pleasure which I think he was trying to avoid
Lol, ok bud have fun with your veggie cult.
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That article is trash, so I'll save future readers a click: > soy heme had to undergo animal testing That's it. You have to be that strict a vegan to think it doesn't count.
Trust me, I agree. I just found the first link that explained it more or less. I am the furthest thing from vegan and I couldn't care less, but wanted to produce some source on why Impossible Meat is not technically vegan certified. Whatever that is.
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Ketchup + mayo oftentimes
Basically a sugar mixture then? We already get enough unintended sugars.
I'm also not a fan of mayo or ketchup because I think they're disgusting, but go look at the nutrition information: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91q08lhAYAL... https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5a/56/4a/5a564a60d38dc88d97e3...
A 1 tbsp serving of both will set you back 4g of sugar. Sure, they each have "high fructose corn syrup" on the ingredient list, but it's a small enough amount to have no nutritional impact. In reality, the bulk of the sugar in the ketchup is coming from the tomatoes and the mayo doesn't have enough to even warrant listing measurable calorie content from sugar at all.
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Vegetarian here, you're wrong. Boil a chicken breast and eat it and tell me it tastes better. If you handed me a plate of boiled peas and a spoon I'd probably hand them back to you too. Good _food_ tastes good. Most times you eat it's complemented with sauces, marinades, etc. Cooking vegetarian requires the same effort. People who slather a Midwestern meatloaf in ketchup likely wouldn't even notice if it was vegetari…
> Vegetarian here, you're wrong. Legitimately laughing out loud at this response. You're sitting there at your keyboard telling other people that their food preferences are wrong? Seriously? No one is going to take you seriously if you can't acknowledge the basic premise that food preferences are personal opinions. "Food is all about personal preference"
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> You are not the target group for these products! It's not a choice for me. When I go to _restaurants_, they are replacing their only vegetarian options with these impossible/beyond meats, and they're charging $2 more while they're at it. These goals and target markets sound great on paper, but feels like the exact opposite in practice. The goal for reducing waste is great, but why are vegetarians paying that cost w…
Probably because the beyond/impossible offerings sell more and they're only willing to put a limited number of vegetarian items on the menu so the others are crowded out.
I’ve never understood the “pretend meat” category. Lots of vegetarian food tastes amazing and is good for you. It doesn’t have to pretend.
It’s like over-boiling broccoli and covering it in cheese sauce: easier for broccoli-haters to eat, but totally missing the point.
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The thing is, this stuff is more expensive than normal meat, and if you go by bio availability of the nutrients, a fraction of the same nutritional value as actual meat. And if they replace meat consumption then it puts even more stress on the agricultural land that can actually grow vegetable crops, which is only about a quarter of all farm land. So either way, it wont work that well in it's current state.
It is all magical and ideological driven thinking that ignores scale. Solve one problem and pretend the solution that works at a micro scale has no issues scaling up. I am completely down to eat bugs even but eating bugs at a scale anything close to meat in general is a laughable amount of bugs. We would probably need 10 times the long haul trucking to ship that many bugs around.
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There is nothing harder to change in this world than culture. Sometimes you can't just make the alternatives better. Sometimes they already are better, and still nothing changes. People are stubborn, interests are entrenched. Sometimes you have to force society to change. It's not ideal, but we don't live in an ideal world.
I don't see how you are going to make this stick. Suppose some politician adds a meat tax or something like that. He will just be voted out enmass in the next election and the ruling will be quickly reversed. Furthermore with the way these things go in a country like the US, that successor will not only roll back and tax he will then tax vegetables to help subsidize the meat eaters.
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> If the companies can get their products to taste about the same as meat, and have about the same nutritional value, while being cheaper, we can eliminate enormous amounts of habitual meat consumption. Habitual meat eater here. I will never ever trust these products to be right for my body the way meat is. Humans haven’t nailed it in the past with heavily processed foods, why would it suddenly work now? I understand…
This seems like a bonkers thing to claim. You're suggesting that if someone gave you two burgers that tasted identical, one that was real meat and costs £5, and the other that was fake and costs £2, if they were other than that TOTALLY IDENTICAL (other than the fake one being better for the planet), you'd still feel the need to eat the real one? For some sense of perceived...offence?
Tons are buying sunscreen that doesn’t even work all while thinking they are better than everyone else.
Honestly making it cheaper is probably an error. Less cash for developer to improve it and has negative aspect of it.
I married a vegan, and I eat a lot of vegetarian food. (I also still eat plenty of meat, just not every day.) One extremely frustrating aspect of plant meat is that they tried to aggressively push out traditional veggie burgers on restaurant menus. A familiar refrain I've heard in restaurants in the last few years is "we used to have a nice veggie patty, but they replaced it with the beyond/incredible/whatever patty.…
I'm a meat lover and this annoys me too! One of my favorite sandwiches is a southwestern style black bean burger.
I also flat out hate Impossible Burgers, they taste off, their texture is weird, and they leave me feeling icky after I eat one.
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It depends on what you are looking for with the vegan cheese. If you want something to go with a charcuterie plate, there are really good cultured cashew milk cheeses. They are more akin to cheese spreads though, something like this [0] But if you are looking for something like a slice of cheddar or vegan mac-n-cheese the options are really pretty terrible and all have an aftertaste like you just ate a spoonful of Cr…
Not knowing anything about vegan cheeses, are there options that would be something similar to say brie, camembert, emmental, fontina, gruyère, havarti, manchego, parmigiano reggiano, or roquefort?
I don't think I have ever seen something trying to imitate any really soft (brie) or blue (roquefort) cheeses.
