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Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by uejfiweun »

memish wrote: post #850

There's an asymmetry here where Twitter and other companies get blamed for layoffs, but didn't get praised for providing highly paid jobs that put their employees in the top 1%. Even Stripe just had layoffs and they are a much more productive, tighter run ship. Twitter cutting deeper than Stripe shouldn't be surprising. It's not a secret that they were overstaffed and are known for rest & vest. This goes way back. In…

Agh, I WISH tech companies provided jobs that put employees in the top 1%. The truth is that in an era of gigantic wealth inequality, being in the top 1% of income doesn't mean shit. I may make good money, but when I can't even afford the shittiest studio apartment in town and I have no choice but to be a renter bitch, it doesn't make me feel rich at all.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by jurassic »

NaturalPhallacy wrote: post #691
john-radio wrote: post #402

A lot of the tweets that are quoted in the article have been removed. For example, Twitter employee Cristina Angeli is mentioned in the story for having tweeted an image of "staff members... flooding an internal Slack channel with blue heart emojis as they wait to learn their fate tomorrow", but that tweet is deleted on twitter itself because "This Tweet violated the Twitter Rules." This is ironic if you consider all…

> This is ironic if you consider all the complaining that Musk does in the public sphere about "freedom of speech" (I know that the first amendment only applies to government censorship, but Musk likes to pretend not to), but it's also significant because - He hasn't made any major changes to algorithms / policies yet. They're tripping over their own pre-Musk rules.

When you layoff 75%, that is a change of policy. Lots of people are needed to operate the system as it was.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by moufestaphio »

bamboozled wrote: post #891
tshaddox wrote: post #581

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be nice if revenue and employee count were completely independent. Heck, you could fire everyone except one person and have an incredibly high ratio! (Don’t fire that last person or else you’ll get a divide by zero error.) Interestingly, he’s already tweeting out complaints about a massive drop in revenue. His theory is that this is caused not by his erratic behavior, but instead by activists who hate free s…

That tweet really makes me think he has gone paranoid / crazy. “Activists groups pressuring advertisers trying to destroy free speech in America ?” The dude is a conspiracy theorist now ?

Yes? He tweeted the Paul Pelosi's gay lover conspiracy last week.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by fleddr »

john-radio wrote: post #402

A lot of the tweets that are quoted in the article have been removed. For example, Twitter employee Cristina Angeli is mentioned in the story for having tweeted an image of "staff members... flooding an internal Slack channel with blue heart emojis as they wait to learn their fate tomorrow", but that tweet is deleted on twitter itself because "This Tweet violated the Twitter Rules." This is ironic if you consider all…

It's a truly strange conspiracy theory to extrapolate that Musk will simply delete Tweets he doesn't like. About a billion of those get posted each day. It's extremely unlikely he called for it on this one, sounds more like a HR policy.

Smart journalists destroy their own relevancy? Barely anybody reads their articles, that's why they post and link to it from Twitter. And thereby grow a personal audience they can take to any other newspaper.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by scottLobster »

bamboozled wrote: post #891
tshaddox wrote: post #581

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be nice if revenue and employee count were completely independent. Heck, you could fire everyone except one person and have an incredibly high ratio! (Don’t fire that last person or else you’ll get a divide by zero error.) Interestingly, he’s already tweeting out complaints about a massive drop in revenue. His theory is that this is caused not by his erratic behavior, but instead by activists who hate free s…

That tweet really makes me think he has gone paranoid / crazy. “Activists groups pressuring advertisers trying to destroy free speech in America ?” The dude is a conspiracy theorist now ?

If the last two years have taught us anything, intelligence is not correlated with the ability to believe conspiracy theories.

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Post by alsetmusic »

tshaddox wrote: post #780
yummies wrote: post #639

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there's a much simpler and less juicy angle here: someone posted a screenshot of an internal communication , and it got removed. It's not surprising or controversial that Twitter would try to contain a leak of its own internal comms (a screenshot of their slack). This isn't "Twitter took down a disparaging post about Twitter", it's that they tried to stop the sharing of internal data. That being said, I don't…

> It's not surprising or controversial that Twitter would try to contain a leak of its own internal comms (a screenshot of their slack). It's not surprising or controversial, but it's in direct opposition to the idea that Twitter should allow all legal speech.

> It's not surprising or controversial, but it's in direct opposition to the idea that Twitter should allow all legal speech.

The employees probably sign NDAs. It's only a civil suit, but I think that would still fall outside the realm of what he's been preaching. Note, I'm not taking his side or anyone else's.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by fleddr »

losvedir wrote: post #180

And so the grand experiment begins. I feel bad for the folks losing their job because that always sucks, and I hope there's a decent severance package. Now we'll see what happens to Twitter... I hardly use it, so if it implodes it won't bother me too much. But I am curious to see if all the "how do you need X people to do Y?" commenters are correct in this case. The app is simple but doing simple things at scale is h…

I'd say it's typical discourse in today's world to consider Musk either a total failure or the greatest genius ever. Everything has to be boiled down to this simple Disney-like binary.

Anyway, on this one I consider the chance of failure to be high, from a financial point of view but also because a social network is not an engineering challenge. That said, he seems to seek out such unlikely adventures.

I think Twitter will first take a massive hit before it rises to new heights, if it does.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by swyx »

fleddr wrote: post #939
losvedir wrote: post #180

And so the grand experiment begins. I feel bad for the folks losing their job because that always sucks, and I hope there's a decent severance package. Now we'll see what happens to Twitter... I hardly use it, so if it implodes it won't bother me too much. But I am curious to see if all the "how do you need X people to do Y?" commenters are correct in this case. The app is simple but doing simple things at scale is h…

I'd say it's typical discourse in today's world to consider Musk either a total failure or the greatest genius ever. Everything has to be boiled down to this simple Disney-like binary. Anyway, on this one I consider the chance of failure to be high, from a financial point of view but also because a social network is not an engineering challenge. That said, he seems to seek out such unlikely adventures. I think Twitte…

> a social network is not an engineering challenge

this is a sign that youve never had to support the scale of a popular social network

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