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Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by SilverBirch »

shantanu77 wrote: post #552

Musk has extraordinary capability of extracting every bit of potential a person can deliver. Either you work crazy at your 200% or you are worthless and the company is not for you. Twitter will see lots of layoffs, massive restructuring - some unknown people being promoted for top roles, but end result will be better financial. I am not sure Twitter will remain the same as it is. Lots of people think Elon is not good…

The big difference between this and all of Musk's other ventures, is that this is performing a wheel change whilst you're still driving the car. Everything in Tesla and SpaceX has been more or less built from scratch, and involves the release of new products, which can slip. If Twitter's servers fall over, or some Nazis manage to co-ordinate assinating Nancy Pelosi whilst he's at the wheel, or he accidentally endorses an anti-free speech authoritarian regime that hack up journalists with bonesaws... he's going to be in trouble. Because anyone with any sense will leave, and network effects go both ways.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by guax »

perfectstorm wrote: post #694

what a waste of everyone's time. as a manager, I can tell you that even my smartest engineers go through highs and lows in their career and there are days when they push out code like there's no tomorrow and days when they don't push out anything because you know there's life outside of work that affects them (their dog passed away or their wife filed for divorce or their daughter is sick and was taken to ER etc). An…

I bet there was nothing happening in the last 60 days that would demotivate people on twitter. All was well.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by upsidesinclude »

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #828
TheChaplain wrote: post #783

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comments like this makes me lose faith i humanity. If I were a engineer at Twitter, I'd do my absolute best up to the minute I have to leave the premises. Because I would care about the company, my colleagues and most importantly for the >200m people who use Twitter for fun, educational, business and those who depend on it. But it's probably because I'm an old beard, who value being honest and ethical, to be the bett…

> If I were a engineer at Twitter, I'd do my absolute best up to the minute I have to leave the premises. Because I would care about the company, my colleagues and most importantly for the >200m people who use Twitter for fun, educational, business and those who depend on it. I'm an old beard too and this seems (sorry) borderline delusional to me. Even in normal circumstances that kind of devotion to an employer neve…

Place the comment in context. The other post is advocating for actively destroying the company

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by MrMan »

cookingrobot wrote: post #609
blindriver wrote: post #603

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Twitter is a private company now. There are no more stocks to vest, so the idea that this is to dodge vesting schedules doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

According to blind, vesting schedules are converted to cash grants on the same schedule. So essentially there is still vesting, and no acceleration for regular employees. Curious to hear if anyone knows otherwise. https://www.teamblind.com/post/Twitter-Accelerated-Vesting-L...

another reason I think taking twitter private immediately was a wide choice

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by SilverBirch »

osigurdson wrote: post #902

Does Twitter have a large, observable quality problem. If there is one, I never noticed it myself but I’m not a particularly active user. I think their main problem is they thought their role was thought shaping via sneaky algorithms. I think the main thing Elon should be looking to remove is those that fundamentally do not believe in free speech, since the culture of the company has changed so materially.

Twitter has reportedly got the opposite problem to Facebook. Facebook was move fast and break stuff, at Twitter they've got such a beleif that Twitter is amazing that they're incredibly resistant to change anything. So it's not that the stuff they do is bad, it's just that where other companies try lots of new stuff, Twitter didn't. That has actually changed a bit since Jack was forced out, but still, they move very slowly.

I think people are really overthinking this free speech thing with Musk, the vast majority of the engineers don't really get input into the moderation policy, and the level of cuts that Musk is rumoured to make are far beyond just removing any anti-free speech people.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by activitypea »

TheChaplain wrote: post #783
Tiktaalik wrote: post #46

I dunno why any Twitter engineers would be really trying that hard right now. Passively destroying Twitter from within by not trying, and trying to make a billionare lose 44 billion dollars is a significantly more fun and interesting challenge than making Twitter a better product.

Comments like this makes me lose faith i humanity. If I were a engineer at Twitter, I'd do my absolute best up to the minute I have to leave the premises. Because I would care about the company, my colleagues and most importantly for the >200m people who use Twitter for fun, educational, business and those who depend on it. But it's probably because I'm an old beard, who value being honest and ethical, to be the bett…

>degenerates

wew lad

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by activitypea »

ergocoder wrote: post #671
kweingar wrote: post #567

The most bizarre aspect of this was when Twitter engineers were told to print out their code on paper. There is literally no good reason to do that. At best it is staggering incompetence. At worst it is an intentionally pointless and expensive exercise that serves purely as a loyalty test.

> At worst it is an intentionally pointless and expensive exercise that serves purely as a loyalty test. The engineers would have used company's resources. I wouldn't be bothered if I am forced to do this. It is a 1 minute of work to print something. I don't think this part is true. It is likely fake. The source for the print out story is so shaky. Leah Culver tweeted obscurely which is hard to tell whether it is a j…

> It's one minute of work to print something

There's a bunch of comments echoing this sentiment, and I'm wondering if something's wrong with me. I'm 27 and haven't printed anything in an office... maybe ever? I've only peripherally noticed HR and office managers constantly struggle with printers. At this point, I'd probably be the one asking my parents how to print something :')

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by la64710 »

pavlov wrote: post #853

I worked at Facebook and remember what it was like to first face the total complexity of the system. It’s really hard for me to imagine myself working at a company that deals almost exclusively with machine-generated data (as Tesla does) and being assigned to judge a social platform’s engineering qualify in one day . Cars and spaceships on a closed network are fundamentally “clean” compared to having hundreds of mill…

Hahahaa

https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428775/twitter-fake-em...

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by dragonwriter »

nebula8804 wrote: post #739
mikeryan wrote: post #282

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If these numbers are right and they're laying off 50% the workforce, half of me wonders how much Parag could raise to build a new Twitter from scratch and just hire 500 - 1000 talented folks off the street for the venture, I mean if Travis K could raise almost a billion for his shitty ghost kitchen venture I'd have to think they could get enough runway to get something launched pretty quickly. There's so many "What w…

Didn't he just get a golden parachute of around 54 Million dollars? Would a portion of that be enough to get going?

> Didn't he just get a golden parachute of around 54 Million dollars?

I think he got some from stock in the sale, but Musk is characterizing his firing as “for cause” to deny (or at least stall pending legal action) Parag’s golden parachute (same with the other Twitter execs.)

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by ergocoder »

activitypea wrote: post #937
ergocoder wrote: post #671

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At worst it is an intentionally pointless and expensive exercise that serves purely as a loyalty test. The engineers would have used company's resources. I wouldn't be bothered if I am forced to do this. It is a 1 minute of work to print something. I don't think this part is true. It is likely fake. The source for the print out story is so shaky. Leah Culver tweeted obscurely which is hard to tell whether it is a j…

> It's one minute of work to print something There's a bunch of comments echoing this sentiment, and I'm wondering if something's wrong with me. I'm 27 and haven't printed anything in an office... maybe ever? I've only peripherally noticed HR and office managers constantly struggle with printers. At this point, I'd probably be the one asking my parents how to print something :')

At the office like twitter, printers are already set up on your work laptop for you.

You basically chooses a printer (there are 10s of them) and click print.

Literally a minute of work.

Also, you are lucky. Visa employees need to print stuff from time to time for h1b, green card, and citizenship. And you bet it. They print it at work because nobody has printer at home.

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