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Google Search Is Dying

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Re: Google Search Is Dying

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I’ve posited repeatedly that when Reddit IPOs, I’ll be reallocating a significant chunk of my portfolio into their stock. Their management has historically lacked focus, but if Reddit ever builds a half-competent search index, and positions itself as a search-first, discovery-second destination, they will be in the FANG tier of stocks. They have the data. They have the dedicated, active user base. They have free mode…

Reddit userbase is fast deteriorating. The power users who were responsible for much of its highest-quality content have been fleeing the sinking ship for quite some time - once a fully credible alternative springs up (and some are in the works already, with superior tech underlying them) they'll be as toast as Digg unless they radically course-correct.

Could you share some of those emerging alternatives?

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#934

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I too have found myself searching more in Reddit. Not to throw shade on Reddit, but even if I find exactly what I’m looking for in there, it’s depressing that it’s all bound up inside of another walled garden who will eventually have the same incentive as Google: squeeze every last advertising dollar out of the produc… I mean users. Like Google, it’s just a matter of time before they too lose their balance. A questio…

I "search" reddit a lot, but all my searches are always through Google. Reddit search is notoriously bad, even after multiple attempts by them to fix it. Suffixing my Google searches with "reddit" though gives all the results I'm looking for.

Yeah. I’ve run into this too. A lot of websites have terrible internal search. Google crushes it, esp when you have a “site:reddit.com” to the query.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#935
I haven’t read any comments. That being said I think a lot of what this is saying is anecdotal. Anecdotal evidence is good in this case because it would probably be hard to get good data on what this is trying to prove. I think some of the problem is that most of the people who google something don’t care that they use google or even think about what they type in. People who are using quotes to google things I would already put in the advanced category of googling. I google things every day for programming matters and most of the time it’s good with the short answers it pulls from SO or bringing up documentation as a first result. But not once have I used the quotes function to google something. If the quotes not matching was a big argument of his and then later revises that with “oh the quotes do work… for now” I don’t see why this has so much traction. As for Reddit being so popular I think needs more of an explanation. I think one large factor is Wall Street bets. That probably brought a lot of people and kept them. And beyond that people who heard about WSB had never heard of Reddit and downloaded it and kept using. Reddit is nothing more than a forum. Is there a fine line between a forum and a search engine? You tell me.

In the mean time just learn how to google. I google obscure questions about Flutter and specific flutter packages and google does fine. If not then I switch to duck duck go.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

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It's already dead. Google mined all the links that were curated by the initial internet communities for all it was worth and turned them into profits for Google's earliest employees and shareholders. Now that no one is curating useful links anymore their search quality, unsurprisingly, is deteriorating. Without human curation there is no signal for Google to use anymore and whatever signal is there is just SEO spam t…

I honestly don't think this is the problem, like at all. There are human websites made by humans, still. There's more crap, sure, but the good stuff is largely still out there. The problem begins and ends with the conflict of interest that Google both sells ads and selects search results. If they didn't have a vested interest in people visiting sites with their ads on them, they could decimate the number of spam resu…

Hard to proof this but anecdotally lots of energy that used to go into people's hobby or passion websites now is going into digital platforms like reddit, pinterest or Twitter, or if lucky substack or Medium. Some of those are walled gardens and Reddit as discussed here is where people now search. Much less out on the actual net

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#937
I use site:medium.com when searching for technical intro tutorials. This is to exclude official verbose and robotic docs like the ones from AWS.

AWS docs have a LOT of content and words but they feel numb and almost meaningless, they say so much yet you read for hours and have no clue of how to solve the problem. It feels like reading a dictionary on *hammer* when you want to learn to use a hammer.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#938

Another aspect of Google that completely bugs me. Put in a search term. E.g. "fat wallet" " About 22,100,000 results " it says. Click through to the last page. " Page 6 of about 198 results (1.03 seconds) " So out of 22 million results, I can really only see 198?? That can't be right. Wait, it says, " In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 198 already displaye…

Tones are hard to do with text, so I'll preface with I'm-not-kidding:

The other 22,099,585 results were identical copies of the 415 pages you did see. SEO farms are huge.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#939

There have been many interesting threads recently about the decline of Google's search quality here on HN. There's zero doubt search results are getting worse, and that ads and spam are the cause. But Google's financial performance has been going from record to record. So there is a huge disconnect building in the market. Each thread has had some common themes, but what's surprising is how different the problems disc…

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