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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by wlll »

nico_h wrote: post #495
valine wrote: post #46

Epic update. Crazy fast chips, 120hz, mini LED, more ports, 64 gigs of ram. It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.

I’m so impressed by the screen but it’s too un-ergonomic for me that I’m sad instead. Would have been so nice if they had released 27” desktop screens to connect with these finally wonderful laptops. It’s not like a huge majority of office workers have been staying at home or working from the office for the last year and half or something. The coffee shop surfing, working in the plane / train must have taken a dive.

Just buy a non-apple screen? I run 3 Samsung 4K screens on my MBP.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by reacharavindh »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #479

Priced out the one I would buy and it is $4300. Seems the value isn't quite there. Hard to say though without playing with it for a while. So clearly I need to go back to work for some tech company that will buy one for me :-). It is more interesting to me to reflect on the comments from about 5 years ago that "ARM will never be in laptops, its a 'phone' processor." That statement was both true and ignored the realit…

I wish the non-Apple ecosystem gave a clear alternative that allows us to choose specs like this :-(

I look at Lenovo Thinkpad with Ryzen 5000 CPUs, they are stuck with crappy displays.

Dell has better displays but not the Ryzens CPUs I wanted.

Framework is modular but no Ryzen.

Nothing makes me want to open my wallet.

I’d love almost exactly a MacBook Pro spec with M1Max replaced by Ryzen 5000 series CPU and 64 GiB of memory, and an excellent display. May be that unicorn of achieve will cost as much as your configured MacBook Pro :-(

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by dna_polymerase »

reacharavindh wrote: post #932
ChuckMcM wrote: post #479

Priced out the one I would buy and it is $4300. Seems the value isn't quite there. Hard to say though without playing with it for a while. So clearly I need to go back to work for some tech company that will buy one for me :-). It is more interesting to me to reflect on the comments from about 5 years ago that "ARM will never be in laptops, its a 'phone' processor." That statement was both true and ignored the realit…

I wish the non-Apple ecosystem gave a clear alternative that allows us to choose specs like this :-( I look at Lenovo Thinkpad with Ryzen 5000 CPUs, they are stuck with crappy displays. Dell has better displays but not the Ryzens CPUs I wanted. Framework is modular but no Ryzen. Nothing makes me want to open my wallet. I’d love almost exactly a MacBook Pro spec with M1Max replaced by Ryzen 5000 series CPU and 64 GiB…

Eventually the Ryzen Framework will come and then the whole discussion is over for me. I won't buy a >$2000 device that isn't upgradeable, repairable and has a poor Linux story.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by zlsa »

resters wrote: post #769

The pricing suggests that the M1 mini was priced aggressively as a marketing strategy, and that now that the dust is settling the cost of the M1 powered macs is going to be less of a value win than I'd initially hoped. Looking forward to actual use benchmarks for the things I'd use it for.

On paper, the M1 Pro 10-core CPUs are faster multicore than any Mac ever except for the Mac Pro and iMac Pro. They're faster than the i9-11900k.

It remains to be seen if they are as fast in practice as they are in theory, but if they are, I don't think they're overpriced.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by zlsa »

farmerstan wrote: post #549

Uhhhh can the MacBooks charge via USB-C? Because I’ve been investing heavily in usb-c chargers (they are $80 and I bought 5 of them for traveling, different room etc). If they can’t be used for charging anymore I’m going to lose my shit for real

Yes.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by ralmidani »

I’m seriously considering buying a middle-spec M1 MBP, and I also have a preorder for a DIY Edition Framework laptop[0]. I realize devices which give users more freedom to tinker, repair, customize, improve, etc. may never compete for market share with locked-down devices which are harder to repair, upgrade, and recycle, but my hope is that the former will at least remain a viable option. It’s tempting to splurge on a top-of-the-line MBP, but I prefer to split my money so at least some of it goes toward sustainable and freedom-respecting computing.

[0]https://frame.work/laptop-diy-edition

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by kaladin_1 »

ralmidani wrote: post #936

I’m seriously considering buying a middle-spec M1 MBP, and I also have a preorder for a DIY Edition Framework laptop[0]. I realize devices which give users more freedom to tinker, repair, customize, improve, etc. may never compete for market share with locked-down devices which are harder to repair, upgrade, and recycle, but my hope is that the former will at least remain a viable option. It’s tempting to splurge on…

Well, you get to vote with your wallet.

I'm also considering between the M1 Pro and Framework Laptop but not sure the Framework will be at par with what Apple delivers functions-wise.

Regarding Framework using intel chip, I haven't really seen a strong argument comparing its specs with that of M1 other than the repairability. I'm not quite sure that's everyone's priority. Sure, if you've ever spent 2k repairing your Mac cos you don't have Apple Care, repairability becomes an important issue.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by [deleted] »

kaladin_1 wrote: post #937
ralmidani wrote: post #936

I’m seriously considering buying a middle-spec M1 MBP, and I also have a preorder for a DIY Edition Framework laptop[0]. I realize devices which give users more freedom to tinker, repair, customize, improve, etc. may never compete for market share with locked-down devices which are harder to repair, upgrade, and recycle, but my hope is that the former will at least remain a viable option. It’s tempting to splurge on…

Well, you get to vote with your wallet. I'm also considering between the M1 Pro and Framework Laptop but not sure the Framework will be at par with what Apple delivers functions-wise. Regarding Framework using intel chip, I haven't really seen a strong argument comparing its specs with that of M1 other than the repairability. I'm not quite sure that's everyone's priority. Sure, if you've ever spent 2k repairing your…

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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by avaku »

humanistbot wrote: post #95
buildbot wrote: post #13

64GB of 512bit unified memory is REALLY fast/huge This will be better than many training GPUs for ML... Better than dual socket servers... I wonder if the mac pro will be dual proc...

Yeah, but can it run CUDA pipelines?

I think they want everyone to move to Metal Performance Shaders. I've done some stuff on them, but not nearly as developed as CUDA.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by Nevermark »

rStar wrote: post #925
d3nj4l wrote: post #35

These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…

notch bothers me a lot. i was ready to buy, and i hope all you guys enjoy, but i’ll be sitting the notch out. it was one thing on a phone. this is just dumb.

You are getting more screen, not less. Nothing dumb about that.

I can see someone having an aesthetic issue with it, as a distraction perhaps.

But having a fat bezel at the top, as all other bezels shrink toward zero, is also aesthetically non-optimal.

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