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I hope someone here sees the irony.
> They forgot to talk to people who are actually members of the black community. The very people they are trying to not offend. I don't get what makes the author think that any such change should only happen with an explicit approval from "black community". TBH I don't see how community's opinion on this topic is relevant at all. This is a change by people who felt uneasy about the old name for people who felt the sa…
It's an challenging problem that could apply to any demographic group or subculture.
Any person only interacts with a portion of a demographic and thus developed biased impressions based on the slice they see. Ex. "Are black people nerdier than portrayed in the media, or is my social circle just disproportionally nerds?" or "My liberal friend group is more pro-gun more than liberal political rhetoric implies, is my friend group or the political rhetoric closer to the median liberal position?"
Currently, we have polls and extrapolation - but this system has a number of its own flaws and selection biases.
I think there would be a lot of technical and social challenges to succeeding, but building a web service that could measure community sentiment and quantify consensus more accurately than current polls would be incredibly powerful and valuable. Perhaps there is a method where you could measure the size of each tail of the bell curve (people who love or hate idea X enough to create an account to make their opinion known) to estimate the position of the mode.
I want to share my own reactions to the name change since this is a really interesting topic. For context, I'm an African American, so many of my ancestors were slaves. - The first time it occurred to me that "master" in this context could offend anyone was when GitHub changed the name (and broke my workflow). - My immediate reaction was, "this change is by white people for white people," where "white" means anyone w…
As another black SWE, I'll add that I disagree with your perspective. I think the name change does more harm than good because it trivializes the movement. If the goal is to change minds and open hearts then where appropriate, we should endeavor to communicate in ways that will be well received by those who need to hear the message . Stuff like this is just preaching to the choir and alienating the rest, but also not…
Writing so many words about this change that doesn't really affect anyone unless they want it to... I wonder why he was so upset?
(I don't actually wonder. Enjoy your lovely community of wonderful like-minded wholesome people, Dang.)
The poster claims that they personally were not asked about the change. Who cares what that person thinks? Seriously, this is just one voice (an "anon" user, so they won't even put their reputation behind their words).
This poster is clearly uninformed which doesn't help their case. This conversation has a long history in the computer world, and many companies for years have been removing the Master/Slave terminology (including Master/Slave disks). Don't believe me? Go look at Wikipedia, which has a page devoted to this topic! This is hardly new ground!
There may be problems of race in tech, but fighting against the "good" in order to hold out for the "perfect" is a stupid approach. There is no reason to argue against this change.
I want to share my own reactions to the name change since this is a really interesting topic. For context, I'm an African American, so many of my ancestors were slaves. - The first time it occurred to me that "master" in this context could offend anyone was when GitHub changed the name (and broke my workflow). - My immediate reaction was, "this change is by white people for white people," where "white" means anyone w…
A "master recording" is the immutable "official recording" and is the source from which all copies are made, but the "master" in this term comes from the historical use of a "mastering lathe" to create vinyl records. It's quite clear that a "master branch" in git is not like a master recording, because a master branch isn't immutable and moreover is the branch that changes get merged into.
Given that the "master" in historic VCS programs (like Bitkeeper) is explicitly based on master/slave terminology, that git deliberately picked the term to maintain continuity of context with other VCS systems, and that "master" is ultimately a inaccurate description of what a "master branch" actually is in the context of git, it absolutely should be changed to something less inflammatory, like "main" or "working" or "local."
If an outrage mob on social media is going to go after you, and they can be placated by changing a few words, it seems eminently rational to change the words.
> Out of curiosity I asked my manager, who is like 20 yrs older than me, if he had ever been stopped and searched, he said not once in his life. I had a similar conversation when a black colleague was late for work, having been stopped and searched by the police in London. The other 10 (white) developers were all shocked, but he said it as casually as someone might report they'd missed the train, or had a puncture on…
https://www.met.police.uk/sd/stats-and-data/met/stop-and-sea...
> “Meritocracy!”, I hear you cry. “They pick from the most talented students. The ones that worked the hardest to get into the most elite schools. The black students should have just worked harder” Crazy idea: if companies that do virtue signaling on inclusivity were paying their taxes, decent schools could be funded and we would not have so many of those issues. But instead, those companies are actively lobbying to…
In fact, it's perfectly possible to disagree with your company's policy on taxes, and agree with their policy on inclusivity! In fact, these tech workers have almost no control over the taxes their company pays or doesn't pay!
I think many people here would agree with me: I'd be happy if tax laws were changes to make big companies pay more! I would never expect anyone to quit their jobs because they disagreed with how their company filed their tax return. That's just a kind of insane way to think about the world. A worker only has one bargaining chip: they can quit. That's an unreasonable ask.
I want to share my own reactions to the name change since this is a really interesting topic. For context, I'm an African American, so many of my ancestors were slaves. - The first time it occurred to me that "master" in this context could offend anyone was when GitHub changed the name (and broke my workflow). - My immediate reaction was, "this change is by white people for white people," where "white" means anyone w…
While there may be plenty of people of all races who were not offended by the name, when you operate at the scale of a GitHub there is going to be some percentage who are. Some of them will complain. A company like GitHub then has two main options: change the name, or defend not changing the name. Whichever one they pick is going to cause various forms of backlash from various people, but it’s pretty obvious that cha…
Nobody would have complained about GitHub doing nothing had GitHub done nothing.
Now we get to complain about their mindless actions, and possibly later on their spineless back-pedalling.