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How did we arrive to this point where a huge chunk of the population is in one reality and another huge chunk of the population is in another reality? Segregation of information sources? Politicization of media outlets? Self-reinforcing social bubbles? A combination of all of them and more?

https://waitbutwhy.com/2020/01/sick-giant.html

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I think, for the safety of all involved, it may be time to enact section 4 of the 25th Amendment. Amendment 25 - Section 4: Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the Pr…

That's a bad idea. His presidency is basically over. The only thing it would accomplish is to convince his diehard supporters that a coup is in fact taking place and they should respond in kind.

I am so sick of people cowering to idiots with assault rifles strapped to their chest threatening violence. If you hold the above attitude, it is working. This country cannot be held hostage because following the law will cause people to get pissed off and break shit.

25 or die!

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How did we arrive to this point where a huge chunk of the population is in one reality and another huge chunk of the population is in another reality? Segregation of information sources? Politicization of media outlets? Self-reinforcing social bubbles? A combination of all of them and more?

Regardless of what view point you have, it's become painful to watch/consume news on either side if you don't subscribe to their same left/right view point as what is being presented. The MSM has overplayed its hand over the past several years to the point they've been written off by their opposing sides. So that forces a dividing line so you don't even bother looking at the opposing news sources, and when ever you d…

This reminds me of that video about a Russian spy being interviewed saying how Russia's spy efforts are being focused on making the USA population hate eachother. And I'm not saying this IS the result of Russia but it sure seems like this prediction is getting more true every day.

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What an odd day.

Were the people rushing into the Capitol convinced that this salvo would actually effectively cancel out the results of the election?

Was this just a sort of show of strength? To what end?

I only know one diehard MAGA type and she's kind of hard to follow. She goes on at length about things like the Jewish conspiracy to use black people to secure their stronghold on the media and banking, establishing circumcision as a norm for males in the US as a way to show the US fealty to Israel, and something about Trump being akin to Roko's Basilisk and the importance of being on the right side of history.

I'm assuming she's not your average conservative, so I'd love to hear from a participant in today's activities to hear about their goals and motivations for today's activities.

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How did we arrive to this point where a huge chunk of the population is in one reality and another huge chunk of the population is in another reality? Segregation of information sources? Politicization of media outlets? Self-reinforcing social bubbles? A combination of all of them and more?

The people do it to themselves. They believe what they want to believe, hear what they want to hear, see what they want to see. This is still largely a free country where there are multiple independent sources of "news", and individuals voluntarily expose themselves or not to whatever they choose. As far as I know, nobody is tied down in a chair and forced to watch certain TV shows or listen to certain radio shows fo…

School. Nobody is tied down to a chair but children are challenged to think critically on a daily basis.

A good education should produce a balanced and well rounded adult. I teach CS ages 14 to 18 and all teachers have pastoral care responsibilities. I teach much more than just the curriculum. Some lessons — tutorials — are dedicated to general education.

A highlight from last term was tackling the question “is being gay the same as being a paedophile?” It was asked earnestly and in context. It was my pleasure to answer, ask them more questions, and get them to think about consent and what is and isn’t ok for society to ban.

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The riot is winding down. The Capitol Police cleared the building hours ago, and many of the crowd just hanging around have left. More cops from Virginia and DC have arrived, and are slowly pushing the remaining crowd back. Tomorrow, Congress will finish counting the electoral votes. I suspect that some, if not all, of the planned objections will not be made.

If they continue with the objections it might further cement some moderates to become permanent Democratic voters. Today's events will no doubt shape the political landscape for years to come, and there is no turning it back. These voters will continually fear what it means to elect a Republican, because should they lose in the subsequent election, there is now an established history of violence and death -- a woman…

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_coup_d%27état_atte... the russians were able to change their dysfunctional system with less deadly violence than just last night's 4 fatalities.

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How did we arrive to this point where a huge chunk of the population is in one reality and another huge chunk of the population is in another reality? Segregation of information sources? Politicization of media outlets? Self-reinforcing social bubbles? A combination of all of them and more?

I blame the internet. Back in the days before it, we had to learn to live with those around us, now you can just go out and find someone as equally stupid as yourself. I call it the toaster fucker problem. Man wakes up in 1980, tells his friends "I want to fuck a toaster" Friends quite rightly berate and laugh at him, guy deals with it, maybe gets some therapy and goes on a bit better adjusted. Guy in 2021 tells his…

other countries also have internet access. the impact on them doesn't appear to be the same. why is that?

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I wonder if historians will see Gamergate as the start of all this. It's a meme on 4chan right now that this is the case and I can see the lineage.

At the very least this goes back to the Tea Party, but many would point to Nixon's Southern strategy.

Or even https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compromise_of_1877
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