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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by aeternum »

QuercusMax wrote: post #382
lykahb wrote: post #351

The neutral companies, such as utilities, online hosting or financial providers serve nearly everyone with little objections - they defer to the law rather than any internal policies. The more selective companies such as newspapers and TV channels are expected to restrict who can get published. By representing itself both as an open platform and as a company with progressive values, Twitter has put itself into an awk…

Fact-checking obvious lies is a "progressive value"? Wow, that really shows how bad things have gotten.

Very few statements are entirely true or entirely false. So let's not pretend like "fact-checking" is an ideal.

Whoever is doing the "fact-checking" wields great power that can very easily be abused or subverted, similar to the ministry of truth in 1984. This is what people are concerned about.

And while that is clearly an extreme, even a small bias in the fact-check is greatly amplified given the number of users on Twitter/Facebook/etc.

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Post by baq »

riffic wrote: post #867
scaredtobeme wrote: post #843

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The argument is that it's getting there. It's the leading platform for public debate in the US right now. Journalists spend their days refreshing their Twitter feed, so the effect isn't just in the size of Twitter's platform but its influence.

There have been people making these arguments both for and against for a very long time. Even as an example, on this very site: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... I think you'll quickly lean in the opposing view after reviewing those viewpoints, because if Twitter was a utility it would have been declared one at some point in the previous 11 years.

how long did it take to break up standard oil? ma bell?

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by aeternum »

knowaveragejoe wrote: post #21

Good, and frankly they should have been doing this sort of thing sooner.

Would you feel the same if Twitter were purchased by Rupert Murdoch and Twitter hid tweets that Fox considered not true?

Remember that it's only a matter of time until ownership changes or another larger platform gains traction, perhaps even one owned by a foreign government with significantly different ideas of what is "true", IE TikTok.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by KyleJune »

coopsmgoops wrote: post #520
disease wrote: post #516

For everyone bashing Twitter's actions, including the President, why don't they just leave the platform for Gab or something else?

I don't quite understand the "if you don't like it leave" theory. Is it really so unreasonable for people to want to influence the way the established platform works rather than switch and be alone on a new platform. Nobody is going to bother coming with you to Gab.

You could make a similar argument about selling on Amazon. They have rules that you must obey if you want to sell products on their marketplace. If they were not allowed to moderate the content and curate it, then the amazon marketplace would be less appealing to customers and sellers.

Twitter should be able to moderate and curate it's content to protect their brand image. If they don't challenge lies on their platform and remove toxic content, Twitter will become less attractive platform for both individuals and advertisers.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by happytoexplain »

jonhohle wrote: post #245
ndespres wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By calling for the military to shoot protesting citizens? Come on.

Looting is a reasonable form of protest? George Floyd’s death is horrific, and I pray justice is served, but communities cannot be destroyed in pursuit of that justice. Some of this reminds me of Koreatown during the LA riots. If authorities don’t step in, militia’s will rise up to defend their families and livelihood. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots#Destruc... I think it’s reasonable that a comm…

>Looting is a reasonable form of protest?

This is an insulting rhetorical question that only distracts the conversation. The parent obviously did not say nor imply this.

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Post by dependenttypes »

TrackerFF wrote: post #519
pnako wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the lies are obvious, why do they need "fact checking"?

Because some people can't think for themselves, unfortunately.

Not false but this is not a justification for the ministry of truth. If anything it is an argument against it.

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Post by casefields »

disease wrote: post #516

For everyone bashing Twitter's actions, including the President, why don't they just leave the platform for Gab or something else?

That was also the suggestion when businesses didn't want blacks or treated them differently. If you don't like it, leave.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by ric2b »

plutonorm wrote: post #719

I can’t believe everyone is suddenly in favour of censorship. Do you want 1984? Because this is how you get 1984.

It's not censored, you can see the tweet with an extra click, it just has a warning.

Plus it's a private company.

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