Politics is sports and this is a chance to see which jersey you happen to be wearing. Personally, I find one side is actually attempting to argue from a logical standpoint whereas the other is concerned about the emotion evoked by the situation. This is apparent because you will be labelled insensitive if you attempt to point out the flaws.
Richard M. Stallman resigns
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#932The modern day Letter A.
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#933RMS was defending his friend who, at the age of 74, is accused of having sex with a 17 year old girl on a billionaire's private island. There is not a defense for what RMS was writing or how he was trying to defend Minsky. The prevalence of comments trying to turn this against "SJW"s or whatever "other" they can because they're a fan of RMS is disturbing. This isn't us vs. them. This is a man who said something wildl…
How is it we value free speech, but there are certain discussions you just cannot have, even in a rational and measured way, without risking making yourself completely unemployable. You should be able to have a questionable viewpoint in a discussion, without worrying about the lynch mob ending your career. The consequences here are out of line. You can be reprimanded to take your discussions to a non company venue, i…
> How is it we value free speech
we don't value free speech at all since this topic is blacklisted from the front page and many of the comments are being censored.
i know that having this den of pro pedo/rapists is a bad look for HN and SV in general. But why censor the people calling it out, instead of censoring the apologist?
do you all really endorse child rape?
Epstein. Minsky. RMS. Eric Schmidt. Bill Gates. Larry Ellison.
Dominos fall.
Go ahead. Censor this comment. Your turn will come.
Re: Richard M. Stallman resigns
#934RMS was defending his friend who, at the age of 74, is accused of having sex with a 17 year old girl on a billionaire's private island. There is not a defense for what RMS was writing or how he was trying to defend Minsky. The prevalence of comments trying to turn this against "SJW"s or whatever "other" they can because they're a fan of RMS is disturbing. This isn't us vs. them. This is a man who said something wildl…
How is it we value free speech, but there are certain discussions you just cannot have, even in a rational and measured way, without risking making yourself completely unemployable. You should be able to have a questionable viewpoint in a discussion, without worrying about the lynch mob ending your career. The consequences here are out of line. You can be reprimanded to take your discussions to a non company venue, i…
> How is it we value free speech, but there are certain discussions you just cannot have, even in a rational and measured way, without risking making yourself completely unemployable.
Like just how prominently Jews feature in these depraved scandals? Epstein, #MeToo, Anthony Weiner.
Larry David: "I couldn't help but notice, a very, very disturbing pattern emerging - which is that many of the predators - not all, but many of them are Jews."
https://www.jweekly.com/2018/01/24/tough-jewish-men-admit-me...
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#935RMS was defending his friend who, at the age of 74, is accused of having sex with a 17 year old girl on a billionaire's private island. There is not a defense for what RMS was writing or how he was trying to defend Minsky. The prevalence of comments trying to turn this against "SJW"s or whatever "other" they can because they're a fan of RMS is disturbing. This isn't us vs. them. This is a man who said something wildl…
How is it we value free speech, but there are certain discussions you just cannot have, even in a rational and measured way, without risking making yourself completely unemployable. You should be able to have a questionable viewpoint in a discussion, without worrying about the lynch mob ending your career. The consequences here are out of line. You can be reprimanded to take your discussions to a non company venue, i…
> without risking making yourself completely unemployable
Can you provide some examples of people who have been made "completely unemployable" by the twitter lynch mob?
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#936Earlier quoted context omitted.
>RMS was defending his friend who, at the age of 74, is accused of having sex with a 17 year old girl on a billionaire's private island. Which until a few years ago was completely legal in for example Switzerland. As long of course as no one is coerced into anything. Playing the Advocatus Diaboli, why should i view this outcry as anything different then the Saudis stance on sex before marriage? Fundamentalist puritan…
There isn't a situation where a 74 year old has sexual contact with a 17 year old on a billionaire's private island in which everyone is willing and happy with what is happening. It is extremely doubtful that a young woman would find herself in that situation in any other way than a long path of abuse and desperation. Taking advantage of that young woman is immoral. That isn't some puritanical, anti-sex philosophy th…
"There isn't a situation where a 74 year old has sexual contact with a 17 year old on a billionaire's private island in which everyone is willing and happy with what is happening."
How about, if the old person would be mick jagger? I could imagine, he still has his charms to some. Also I have seen young attractive women aproaching old yoga gurus for example ..
But yeah, the old guy wasn't mick jagger, nor a yoga master and at best he did assume the girl was a 18+ old prostitue doing it willingly for money and power.
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#937People seem to be saying a variety of things about RMS: He's a genius, so let him be. He doesn't understand interpersonal communication. He didn't say the things people thought he said. People are too quick to judge. And so forth. I was there, about 20 years ago, when he sent e-mail urging all free-software advocates to protest a bill under consideration in the US Congress. I asked him if he had read the bill. "No,"…
The sweet irony of you criticizing him of not reading something when you yourself clearly didn't read what he had to say!
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#938Schicklgruber Jugend Weiblich will go after Linus next.
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#939RMS was defending his friend who, at the age of 74, is accused of having sex with a 17 year old girl on a billionaire's private island. There is not a defense for what RMS was writing or how he was trying to defend Minsky. The prevalence of comments trying to turn this against "SJW"s or whatever "other" they can because they're a fan of RMS is disturbing. This isn't us vs. them. This is a man who said something wildl…
You are burning an innocent men alive with all his legacy just because you believe that he might be wrong when defending a friend. Not even the worst dictatorships were as evil as you. When you think about fascists, think about you .. doing what you think is right as the cost of everyone elses.
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#940Context: RMS waded into the MIT Epstein scandal https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec21... > I’ve concluded from various examples of accusation inflation that it is absolutely wrong to use the term “sexual assault” in an accusation.
It's pretty incredible reading the comments on that bit, and noticing how the battle lines are drawn almost perfectly along gender (with a few male defectors, but no female)