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14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by vectorjohn »

rtkwe wrote: post #820
ScottBurson wrote: post #765

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Just one data point, but I have a machine I run Folding@Home on most of the time, and that is plugged into a Kill-A-Watt. The difference between idle and full folding power is about 70W, as I recall. Not trivial, but 1/5 of what you've estimated here. 15 years ago, the power difference was probably smaller, maybe quite a bit smaller -- modern CPUs are better optimized for low idle power.

You're probably running a much more powerful processor than the school's computers were. The report is from 2009 at the earliest based on the cited forum post. There were some very low TDP processors during the 2000-2009 time frame that were very common in education systems. Core 2 Duo was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CPU_power_dissipation_...

You were looking at laptop Core 2 Duo. Desktop was 65 to 105.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by hoopd »

mikeash wrote: post #864
slg wrote: post #635

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Ahmed will "get away with it in the long term" as well. He will probably be even better off after this episode. He is going to have the attention of all sorts of great people including the president. But of course that isn't particularly the problem here. When something like this comes up and catches our attention, there is outrage until that specific situation is fixed. We all pat ourselves on the back for helping t…

There will be some change. Maybe not as much as there should be, but we shouldn't completely discount the effects this story will have. Next time a school administrator or police officer is about to abuse a kid for no good reason, they might pause and think, "Wait, what if this gets me in the national news like those guys in Texas?" It's not going to stop all of them. Or most of them. Or even a whole lot of them. But…

They'll think those thoughts not before abusing students but before doing anything that might offend or hurt the feelings of somebody in a protected group.

The good teachers end up with students who should be punished but they're afraid to do it because they might lose their jobs for doing their jobs. The bad teachers will know to aim their abuse at the white males because nobody's watching for that and many who people picture that scenario think to themselves "Good."

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Post by GFK_of_xmaspast »

jcromartie wrote: post #340
DanBC wrote: post #252

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Or the pooice know the father and are looking for ways to fuck with the family.

They'd be stupid to confuse him for someone dangerous. He's benign.

Best kinds of people to fuck with.

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Post by jessaustin »

happyscrappy wrote: post #925
jessaustin wrote: post #907

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You think "bad" neighborhoods are arguments in the police's favor ? I guess you've never had your door knocked down in the middle of the night...

You claimed most criminals were setup by the cops, it seems very unlikely you have had any interaction with either side.

The "industrial-complex" you invoke includes all institutions that create, support, and perpetuate it. Maybe the cops don't write the laws, maybe they don't bargain the pleas, at any rate they don't join LEAP until retirement. The vast surplus of "criminals" in USA, that has existed nowhere else and at no other time in all of human experience, has been manufactured by the industrial-complex, for its own purposes.

Like other rational people who live or have lived in USA, I have minimized my interaction with both "sides" to the extent that I've been able. (Although frankly I elicited more sympathy for a stolen bike from an admitted bike thief than I did from any cop.) If you drop another "you just don't know how it is to be a cop" whinge on us, I'll be forced to assume that you are a cop or in the immediate family of one.

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Post by reddog »

acqq wrote: post #779
DanBC wrote: post #283

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Running seti / etc on the school computers does result in thousands of dollars spend on extra electricity. He was number one on SETI for years, running the client without approval on 5,000 machines. It's not surprising that people get fired for increasing costs by that much without getting approval first. See also http://www.securityfocus.com/news/300

Yes, running 5000 computers on 100% CPU instead of idle is a lot of money and a lot of electricity spent: If these were typical desktop computers, the CPU working at 100% can use some 50 W more than the one staying idle. 5000 computers at 100 % CPU produce then the load of 250 KW, resulting in 6 MWh per day which at 10 cents per KWh costs 600 USD per day, or 220000 USD per year. Finally, 9 years that he did it make a…

You can roughly double that. Thats the cost of the extra electricity needed by the ACs to offset the heat generated by the pegged PCs.

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Post by mikeyouse »

nsxwolf wrote: post #681
mikeyouse wrote: post #231

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In this case it's definitely about the Muslim thing.. Their mayor is known nationally for being an ignorant bigot.. http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2015/03/20/anti-muslim-sent...

Was the mayor involved in this?

Yep, she spearheaded it..

http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/mayor-wont-back-down-from-muslim-...

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Post by Hydraulix989 »

6stringmerc wrote: post #739
maratd wrote: post #307

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> We need a change in priorities and not freak out about taxes for education. People don't freak out over paying taxes for education. Even if they don't have kids in the system. They freak out over throwing money at a broken system and the solution isn't to throw more money at it. Attach a specific dollar amount to a student. Allow that student to go to whichever school they want. End of story. Stop forcing children…

First, no, they do freak out for paying taxes for education, and it's pretty obvious that the hostility increases with age and as the elderly rely on social welfare programs. They get out and vote. Traditionally they vote down any education funding, as a cohort. In my experience the people who claim the public schools are "broken" the loudest are the least qualified to make such an assessment. Also, public schools re…

"Saying that public schools are broken is essentially saying our basic local systems are broken, and that opens a whole new can of worms regarding inequality, poverty, and social priorities."

Not necessarily.

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Post by reddog »

baldfat wrote: post #254
chejazi wrote: post #235

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If public schools are going to succeed, then many states need to "catch up" when it comes to funding. More funding will attract more teachers, creating a stronger candidate pool. If you look at the average funding per student by state, Texas isn't doing so hot [1], especially for being the second largest state [2]. There's definitely more to it than just funding, but I think that would be a good starting point. [1] h…

People HATE TAXES. People HATE paying school tax when they don't have children in school or never had children in school. We under value in society 1) Education (We make fun of smart people who lack social graces) 2) Science (Scoff at all science and under fund Space Programs) I ran for local School Board in my city. We are a school district with over 90% qualify for free lunch and extreme poverty. Parents pick Chart…

Did you know that the US spends more on education than almost any other country? Only Switzerland spends more per capita and only Switzerland, Norway and Austria spend more per student.

http://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp

Do you think more money is the answer or should we spend smarter?

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Post by pfg »

powertower wrote: post #604
pfg wrote: post #408

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Maybe he's being downvoted because the so-called facts he's basing his suspicion on can be easily disproven, as demonstrated by the other replies? I don't get how this can possibly be about left vs right. Common sense hopefully doesn't depend on which side of the political spectrum you fall into.

> Maybe he's being downvoted because the so-called facts he's basing his suspicion on can be easily disproven Which of the 3 points have been dis-proven? Also take into concideration that - 1. The kid had a metal box containing PCBs and probably large components, all tide together around with a wire, and it was making beeping noises in class. 2. The school body and school district is almost 90% non-white, with the ma…

re. 1: His claim that it is "highly unlikely" that a home-made clock would look like a bomb needs some citation. Unless your definition of "looks like a bomb" is "anything with PCBs and wires, stuck in some kind of box", at which point I would argue that any home-made clock will look like a bomb.

re. 2: He's asking the father to provide an image of something that was confiscated by the police or school administration. Furthermore, the first video with the boy contained a fairly detailed description of the clock, and the second video even contains an image of the box (or at least a similar box).

re. 3: Well, he provided an alternative explanation for that himself.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by dang »

Since [1] arguably counts as significant new information [2], I guess we'll leave that one on the front page and demote this one as stale.

I don't feel strongly about this other than not having the story occupy more than one spot on the front page, so if people have strong objections otherwise, we can adjust.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10230696

2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10230555

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