I gave it a test spin. Half an hour and the 5 hour usage cap was hit in Claude Code. Not what I would expect on the Max 20x usage plan. I am sure it is great, but at this rate I would rather finish what I am doing with Claude Opus instead of structuring my usage around the 5 hour windows.
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#922truly scary. 2x at least token burning rate comparing to 4.8, can indeed run auto edit mode for hours. use it for super complex tasks then use cheaper model to do the rest, else will be broke.
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#924First test question: "Is the UV Index a good proxy for when to wear sunglasses." Immediately triggered the safety filter ... oh dear.
Don't worry. They're just leaving the door open for OpenAI and other model makers.
They'll relax these safeguards once competition increases.
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#925I recently switched off Max flat rate to Enterprise API pricing and I went from 200/mo to 10k/mo with the same usage pattern on Opus. They don’t offer flat rate to enterprises. So Fable would cost me 20k/mo at Enterprise rates. That’s around the average cost of a loaded SWE in the USA. “But I’m >2x more productive” doesn’t justify doubling the opex of the Software/IT department for most companies when revenue isn’t e…
I work at a smaller tech company ( Our top user is at 10k a month, but the next highest is $2,000. I would say the average is around $1,000-$1,500 for a developer. We have completely unrestricted access to Claude, Codex, and Cursor. Funny enough, the guy spending 10k is not even a dev by trade but an SME in what we work on that just vibe codes apps and somehow has not been cut off yet lol. I have a single thread of G…
Interesting! Would it be fair to say your company spend $100k to $150k per month on this?
Multiply this times many, many companies, and you can see how providing AI could theoretically be a good business to be in. Margins may be tight, though.
Also -- I'm convinced someone will figure out more use cases beyond software programming, which will result in many more companies spending $1k+ per employee per month.
It remains to be seen how much of this is a bubble.
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#927From today through June 22, Fable 5 is included on Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans at no extra cost. On June 23, we’ll remove Fable 5 from those plans. Using it after that will require usage credits. If capacity allows, we’ll extend the included window. After this point—when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part of subscription plans. We intend to do this…
Seems to me this is more honest than the Mythos claims a while ago. too powerful to release publicly. Too expensive?
Didn't they admit this at the time? Cost was one of the reasons they gave for not immediately making it public.
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#928Impressions from testing Fable 5 prior to launch: • My most noticeable immediate jump was in how its frontend design was much more intentionally crafted, and delightful without feeling like 'AI vibe coded'; with better end-user usability too. • In some internal agentic harnesses, it achieved better results with about half the tokens, making it cost the ~same as Opus 4.8 price-wise! The real price increase is less tha…
I just ran it on a tough reverse engineering problem I'm having that neither Claude Code 4.8 or ChatGPT Codex 5.5 could figure out. 30 minutes later Fable has it all figured out perfectly.
Yeah I threw my hardest problem at it as well, some convoluted satellite tile reprojection and culling issue in canvas rendering. It took some back and forth for some specifics but it ended up writing a quarter of pyproj in JS from memory and the end result straight up works lmao.
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#929The safeguards of fable are blocking me on almost every task. I would like to see if fable is improved over opus for reverse engineering related work. Back to opus for me.
Wow, credit to the safeguard team. I submitted my request about an hour ago to the cyber verification program and just now was approved.
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#930IMO we are reaching the point where AI models are simply a commodity. Opus (since ~4.6) is sufficient for everything I tried coding wise. I use it to write features (but I review and understand every line it spits out) and to review code. For code review I also still review everything myself, but use Opus to catch stuff I missed and to judge if a PR is even ready for me to review. After just updating Claude Code to t…
> Opus (since ~4.6) is sufficient for everything I tried coding wise.
I don't know what that means. It seems like a lack of motivation or something. Like, if it's possible that in one day will be absolutely incredibly intelligent, surely you want to create
- Your own browser (maybe chrome - mv3 + reading list search etc.
- An emacs clone which has evil baked in, completely vim compatible + threaded elisp - that weird window sizing bug which only occurs on my laptop
- An extension which completely restyles amazon.com to make it usable