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Post by Petersipoi »

fn-mote wrote: post #847
stronglikedan wrote: post #748

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm tired of America with everything that's going on. Yeah, me too. All that pesky saving the world stuff that we do on the regular is so exhausting sometimes.

“Saving the world” recently has meant being involved in wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and now Iran. None of those have brought me a feeling of being part of saving someone.

Preventing the number one sponsor of terrorism from getting a nuke absolutely saves people. Even if you don't like the externalities of it. Or is the HN crowd still believing the "we just want nuclear energy (with highly enriched uranium)" story? I genuinely don't know. Humans have a near infinite ability to stare at the sun and insist it's dark, so long as it supports their world view.

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Post by notatoad »

gbnwl wrote: post #9

I’m deeply interested and invested in the field but I could really use a support group for people burnt out from trying to keep up with everything. I feel like we’ve already long since passed the point where we need AI to help us keep up with advancements in AI.

I’m very satisfied with being three months behind everything in AI. That’s a level that’s useful, the overhyped nonsense gets found out before I need to care, and it’s easy enough to keep up with.

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Post by nostrebored »

dandaka wrote: post #823
gertlabs wrote: post #788

Objective, detailed benchmark results at https://gertlabs.com Early takeaways: from this release, DeepSeek V4 Flash is the model to pay attention to here. It's cheap, effective, and REALLY fast. The Pro model is slow, not much better in coding reasoning so far when it works, and honestly too unreliable and rate limited to be of much use, currently. Hopefully that improves as new providers host the model. Flash is wor…

Interesting that you rate Claude Opus 4.6 lower than 4.5 and 4.7, while community consensus puts it on top.

I think most hardcore people I know are still sticking with 4.5 for coding workflows

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Post by _air »

ifwinterco wrote: post #294
vrganj wrote: post #148

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It honestly has all kinda felt like more of the same ever since maybe GPT4? New model comes out, has some nice benchmarks, but the subjective experience of actually using it stays the same. Nothing's really blown my mind since. Feels like the field has stagnated to a point where only the enthusiasts care.

For coding Opus 4.5 in q3 2025 was still the best model I've used. Since then it's just been a cycle of the old model being progressively lobotomised and a "new" one coming out that if you're lucky might be as good as the OG Opus 4.5 for a couple of weeks. Subjective but as far as I can tell no progress in almost a year, which is a lifetime in 2022-25 LLM timelines

Opus 4.5 was released on Nov 24 last year. It’s only been 5 months!

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Post by dackdel »

kccqzy wrote: post #670
throwa356262 wrote: post #217

Seriously, why can't huge companies like OpenAI and Google produce documentation that is half this good?? https://api-docs.deepseek.com/guides/thinking_mode No BS, just a concise description of exactly what I need to write my own agent.

I spent only two minutes reading their documentation and it’s clear no one did any proofreading and it’s full of mistakes made by non-native speakers. Example: the second sentence on the first page says “softwares” but “software” is a mass noun that cannot be pluralized. Example: the third page about tokens has some zipped code to “calculate the token usage for your intput/output” and obviously “intput” should be “in…

i dont think deepseek will ever recover from this. huge loss for them. they will stop the pursuit of agi cause of one hn user and a comma.

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Post by paweladamczuk »

gordonhart wrote: post #746
copypaper wrote: post #735

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Let's also not forget SoTA models stole from us.

True, and they're being tried in a federal court of law for it. NYT v. OpenAI is still very much alive, these things just take a while. Can the same be said about DeepSeek or any other open-source model provider performing distillation?

>these thing just take a while

Oh, so people might be forced to give back the AI earnings? Should I be worried about the last year's capital gains on my portfolio?

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Post by never_inline »

amunozo wrote: post #275

For those who rely on open source models but don't want to stop using frontier models, how do you manage it? Do you pay any of the Chinese subscription plans? Do you pay the API directly? After GPT 5.5 release, however good it is, I am a bit tired of this price hiking and reduced quota every week. I am now unemployed and cannot afford more expensive plans for the moment.

Gemini has a free tier for API but yeah just use chat.
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