Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw • Hacker News Board

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by Nowaker » Fri, Apr 10, 2026, 5:35 PM UTC

motbus3 wrote: post #811

teiferer wrote: post #800

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was less the low wages and more the general unavailability of things (shortages). Lots of things you couldn't just buy but you had to know somebody who knew somebody. I wouldn't call it "funny" though. It ws quite sad and I'm glad it's over.

As I mentioned in another commebt, I don't even consider anything related to that to be a viable government system. That said, the general unavailability of everything was caused by an incompetent government rather the the system itself but the system itself caused the government. My point is that it was a succession of demagogueries hiding personal interests that caused the recurring and unrecoverable tragedies of t…

The general unavailability of everything was caused by the system.

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by KingMob » Sat, Apr 11, 2026, 3:46 AM UTC

muyuu wrote: post #545

KingMob wrote: post #535

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the limits apply to all users. I doubt non-OpenClaw users want to pay $XX more to subsidize OpenClaw users.

it amounts to service limit obfuscation, and their market are very clued about that nobody wants them to add fineprint every time users find effective ways to actually use the service to its advertised limits, it only benefits those who want to be milked for recurring revenue for sporadic usage while paying handsomely for the privilege

Feel free to ask for takeaway at an "all-you-can-eat" buffet. That'll show those rubes eating merely a single meal at the restaurant.

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Apr 11, 2026, 6:10 PM UTC

predkambrij wrote: post #789

Alifatisk wrote: post #594

Skimming through the comments, it feels like I am reading the same message over and over. I agree with some comments that are pointing out the issue with Anthropics capacity constraints and when Subscription vs Api is appropriate. I would like to point out something else. I have Z.ai subscription and they have a dashboard on my usage. When trying out Openclaw a while ago, I noted something worrying. Its constantly co…

Yeah, its heartbeat. If you keep HEARTBEAT.md empty, it won't be consuming tokens every half an hour. Use cron for periodic tasks if possible, but if you need LLM to process something periodically, that's what heartbeat is for. Z burned 166mio tokens in last 30 days, majority was the heartbeat. Definitely wouldn't pay for that if it wouldn't be the subscription. It uses 1-4% of every 5h quotas. Definitely not sustain…

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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by liamsfr » Sun, Apr 12, 2026, 12:35 PM UTC

goosejuice wrote: post #160

jesse_dot_id wrote: post #73

There seem to be a ton of people who don't understand how subscription services work. Every single one of them oversells their capacity. The power users that use the services a lot are subsidized by those who don't use it as much, which tends to be the vast majority of the user base. OpenClaw is an autonomous power user. The growing adoption of this walking attack surface was either going to A) cause the cost of Clau…

What you're saying is conceptually true for subscription services in general, but thats not why they are making this change. There's a 5 hour limit and a weekly limit. Those are hard token limits. Everyone on a plan pays for the max set of tokens in that plan. The limits manage capacity. The solution to that isn't a change of ToS, it's adjusting the limits. In other words this is about Anthropic subsidizing their own…

It's funny that as an avid user and developer on cc, I never used third-party harnesses, never shared my account, have one account and paid for another I just signed up for (both max 20) a more serious side project. And I'm a copius user of claude -p (spawned by their own opus [1m] model) that loops (in code written by opus) = yet I got my second account banned.

When are the honest users ever going to catch a break?

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by kenny1338 » Sun, Apr 12, 2026, 1:29 PM UTC

I had the same problem. Built a Telegram gateway that routes through claude -p (the CLI, still covered by subscription). Self-managing triggers, voice, single Python file. MIT licensed: https://github.com/Kenny1338/claude-telegram-gateway

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by Xiaoher-C » Thu, Apr 16, 2026, 4:15 PM UTC

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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by Xiaoher-C » Thu, Apr 16, 2026, 4:16 PM UTC

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #398

Claude is a UNIX command line tool with an SDK. Yes there's an interactive mode, but it can be invoked as a normal utility too, and piped to other tools and so on. In that context, I don't understand the difference between a "third party harness" and a shell script. How are they even detecting OpenClaw?

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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by Xiaoher-C » Thu, Apr 16, 2026, 4:16 PM UTC

datahack wrote: post #125

Ok. Someone explain to me why they would f themselves this hard with software engineers when they are absolutely winning. This just seems like a bad move. Is it infrastructure? Are they unable to control costs? Everyone else is spending like money is water to try to get adoption. Claude has it and is dialing back utility so that its most passionate users will probably leave. I don’t understand this move.

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