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F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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The Hormuz issue proves that the west never had an ability to economically sanction Iran, au contraire Iran can actually sanction us - and they are. This is what real sanctions look like. The west broke the deal, attacked like terrorists, and are now being sanctioned.

"The West", don't lump us all in.

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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You don't see anything about Russias invasion either. 1.5 million casualties and counting.

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Hello psyop account, how are you doing?

>You can tell because they're all like "Russian gets shot in the ass by a drone LOL" with Metallica playing in the background, like they're not even trying.

Literally every war has combat footage coming out of it that has music overlayed into it. See /r/combatfootage.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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You don't see anything about Russias invasion either. 1.5 million casualties and counting.

that's exactly my perspective on it. it's not about the ukranian, sudanese, Syrian, Irani or Yemeni. those lives seem to be way less worthy of press judging for the coverage the left want to put in Palestinian people. it doesn't follow the principle of equal value on lives but a political agenda and mountains of useful trend followers

Unlike Ukraine, Yemen, Syria and Sudan, the United States has been involved in the Gaza war since Day 1.

It's not that the deaths are more valuable, it's that those are the civilian deaths the United States is most-culpable for.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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During the entire gulf war (Iraq, 1990-91), only two F-15s were shot down via surface-to-air engagement. At the time, Baghdad was known to have the highest density of SAM protection out of any city in the world. An F-15 being shot down in Iran after weeks of strategic bombing of their anti-air defense systems is not a good sign.

My concern is that other countries can aid Iran with weapons in a direct and indirect way. There is no guarantee to block the railroads from East and the shipments from North.

Why are you concerned that the clear victim of foreign aggression get help?

They don't need it though. Our top brass knew this war is stupid twenty years ago.

Without nukes we'll lose this war and badly.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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post #59

I hope the aviators are OK, and also hope whoever they were bombing are also OK. I do wonder if Iran finds them first, will they treat them better than the US treated survivors of the ship sunk by a US torpedo in the Indiana Ocean?

I find it hard to have any sympathy for the American pilots that are dropping bombs on schoolgirls.

Do you support the general rhetorical tactic of taking a single example and expanding it to the entirety of a group?

If so, I assume you're also upset about the bad hombres crossing the US southern border. After all, they are killers and rapists, right?

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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During the entire gulf war (Iraq, 1990-91), only two F-15s were shot down via surface-to-air engagement. At the time, Baghdad was known to have the highest density of SAM protection out of any city in the world. An F-15 being shot down in Iran after weeks of strategic bombing of their anti-air defense systems is not a good sign.

You can't really take out "the whole" air defense system because there will always be folks out with MANPAD-type things, those will score hits on occasion. That's probably what we saw here. I doubt MANPADs were nearly as common in the early 90s as they are today.

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Being the most technologically advanced aircraft in history, one could argue that's a tech novelty they got shut down by some obliterated, imprecise weaponry.

> Being the most technologically advanced aircraft in history... More advanced than the F-117? The B-2? The SR-71? Nah. Maybe you're confusing the F-15 and the F-35?

My mistake, yes I was. Some F-35 did get damaged recently, I assumed it would be another one since it made the top list of hackernews.

It stands peculiar this post wasn't flagged and removed as "politics".

I was being sarcastic, even if another F-35 was shot, why should it go through the strict guidelines.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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who do you call "the west", please leave us out of the nonsense from israel and the usa, we have nothing to do with this madness and refuse to be a part of it.

I'm disappointed the UK didn't tell trump to fuck off like Spain did when it came to using bases on their territory

That would require Starmer having anything resembling a spine.
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