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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by gib444 »

strcat wrote: post #898
gib444 wrote: post #442

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a pretty poor and disappointing reply to be honest. They asked a reasonable question and you barely even responded to anything they asked. The community deserves a response to the question. What with this new chapter, it might be better for someone else to handle PR and comms for the project (Signed, passionate GrapheneOS user of a few years)

> The community deserves a response to the question. You use GrapheneOS which we provide to you free of any cost but yet you're being nasty towards us throughout this thread. Why do you think you deserve anything from us? Why should we participate on this platform at all when we have name calling, bullying and links to harassment content directed towards us with nothing being done about it? https://news.ycombinator.c…

"nasty", "bulling", "harassment" ? Whatever.

You seem to have a persecution complex. Ironically, baseless accusations of nastiness and harassment and weaponising language is also bullying. I'm out. Best of luck to the project, and to you personally.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by Avamander »

strcat wrote: post #899
ysnp wrote: post #535

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> some odd ideas about trust and PKIs. Can you explain what you mean?

Our project account posted a thread about our recent migration of our mail server to using our ASN and IP space. They replied to the thread by attacking Postfix, DNSSEC and DANE. They promoted the insecure MTA-STS approach promoted by Google despite them not fully adopting it for Gmail similarly to how they don't even use an enforcing DMARC policy despite punishing others for not doing it. We explained Domain Validat…

You take it too personally and if anyone is angry it's you. Listing shortcomings of a project is not "attacking", it's juvenile to think so. Shortcomings you refused to admit and your "explanations" were fundamentally misguided and incorrect. You eventually just resorted to FUD and blocking instead of actually looking at DNSSEC and DANE and the issues it has.

DNSSEC is a *bad* PKI, with infallible roots of trust, terrible adoption rate and horrible transparency. If someone misbehaves, you will have no idea, there will be no recourse and absolutely nobody is enforcing any standards on how things should be ran.

Bringing DMARC and phishing into this topic is a desperate grasp at straws if I have ever seen one.

DNSSEC defenders should actually know what they're talking about first.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by rbits »

ysnp wrote: post #559

It took a while but congrats to Daniel Micay and GrapheneOS. Hopefully it is the first of a few (looking at you HMD, Sony, Samsung, Nothing). Will Motorola allowlist/whitelist GrapheneOS's avb key for green boot state? Does that have any implications for Play Integrity? Do GrapheneOS finally get AOSP full partner access as a result of this? Will the Motorola device have USB port control, OS virtualisation and GPU vir…

> Will the Motorola device have USB port control, OS virtualisation and GPU virtualisation?

From GrapheneOS's requirements for any phone they will consider supporting [1]:

- Hardware accelerated virtualization usable by GrapheneOS (ideally pKVM to match Pixels but another usable implementation may be acceptable)

- Support for disabling USB data and also USB as a whole at a hardware level in the USB controller

[1] https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by Klinky »

fragmede wrote: post #768
unselect5917 wrote: post #761

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what's it called? searching Settings for "pulse", "width", and "modulation" all produce no results.

Settings → Accessibility → Display & Text Size → Reduce White Point Also Display Pulse Smoothing (PWM) if you're on Tahoe.

Reduce White Point doesn't solve the problem, but helps reduce brightness while leaving the phone at a higher brightness to reduce the modulation depth. This also results in color and contrast changes. Apple is still one of the worst offenders for flicker sensitive people.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by DaSHacka »

strcat wrote: post #893
DaSHacka wrote: post #889

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It's a little ironic Daniel rails on and on about how he's being targeted in a mass-harassment conspiracy against him and the project (usually by "the CalyxOS community", or his old CopperheadOS business partner guy), then.... freely levies a group of his own to mass-flag/downvote critics with the intent to silence them? "Every accusation is a confession" or something, I guess.

The ongoing lies, bullying and harassment towards me is very real and you're directly participating in it. The reality which can be found through looking through actual content which hasn't been doctored is that joemazerino has engaged in years of lies and bullying towards me on Hacker News without moderators stepping up to end it. Ending this bullying showing up in every thread about GrapheneOS from the same small g…

So any criticism is "bullying" and you're justified in brigading threads to silence it?

Many of the people with minor criticisms even use the project (such as myself), and going full nuclear to silence any dissidents is rarely looked favorably upon in hindsight.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by renny56 »

strcat wrote: post #898
gib444 wrote: post #442

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a pretty poor and disappointing reply to be honest. They asked a reasonable question and you barely even responded to anything they asked. The community deserves a response to the question. What with this new chapter, it might be better for someone else to handle PR and comms for the project (Signed, passionate GrapheneOS user of a few years)

> The community deserves a response to the question. You use GrapheneOS which we provide to you free of any cost but yet you're being nasty towards us throughout this thread. Why do you think you deserve anything from us? Why should we participate on this platform at all when we have name calling, bullying and links to harassment content directed towards us with nothing being done about it? https://news.ycombinator.c…

your ass is delusional my fella

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by DaSHacka »

strcat wrote: post #903
nickburns wrote: post #436

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No, by all means. Add a couple more paragraphs. Your rant seethes with credibility.

You can't expect much from people who think Kiwi Farms and content from members of the site are a reliable source of information.

Is that what I said? Or did I merely bring up that (I think) there's a thread about you on that site? I didn't exactly say they're a reputable source of information, but they certainly are known to glom onto internet ""personalities""....

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by throwaway290 »

Klinky wrote: post #926
fragmede wrote: post #768

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Settings → Accessibility → Display & Text Size → Reduce White Point Also Display Pulse Smoothing (PWM) if you're on Tahoe.

Reduce White Point doesn't solve the problem, but helps reduce brightness while leaving the phone at a higher brightness to reduce the modulation depth. This also results in color and contrast changes. Apple is still one of the worst offenders for flicker sensitive people.

I was not taking about the old reduce white point setting. I'm talking about the new setting that specifically disables PWM. It may require a new phone or new ios but it exists.
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