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Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by jstummbillig »

tabs_or_spaces wrote: post #504

I'm happy for the guy, but am I jealous as well? Well yes, and that's perfectly human. We have someone who vibe coded software with major security vulnerabilities. This is reported by many folks We also have someone who vibecoded without reading any of the code. This is self admitted by this person. We don't know how much of the github stars are bought. We don't know how many twitter followings/tweets are bought. The…

You could always get, mh, lucky. That is the most common startup exit plan: Finding someone who pays for half a business or an idea. Now it happens more quickly. Everything does.

But that path was never about writing good code.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by nsvd2 »

rolymath wrote: post #781
mmaunder wrote: post #491

Good move. OpenClaw is alpha quality, very dangerous, super useful and super fun - which amplifies the danger. It’s a disaster waiting to happen and a massive risk for a solo dev to take on. So best to trade it for a killer job offer and transfer all that risk. To get a sense of what this guy was going through listen to the first 30 mins of Lex’s recent interview with him. The cybersquatting and token/crypto bullshit…

> Listen to... Lex People can do that? I always assumed Lex was a CIA psyop to experiment with the ability to make people sleep on demand.

I'm a big fan of his. I particularly enjoy his long technical interviews like the one he did with Peter.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by andrei_says_ »

If the photo at the bottom of the post is a photo of the OpenAI team, then it’s white bros all the way.

Meaning, these products are being created by representatives of the kind of people carrying the most privilege and having the least impact of negative decisions.

For example, Twitter did not start sanitizing location data in photos until women joined the team and indicated that such data can be used for stalking.

White rich bros do not get stalked. This problem does not exist in their universe.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by FartyMcFarter »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #923

If the photo at the bottom of the post is a photo of the OpenAI team, then it’s white bros all the way. Meaning, these products are being created by representatives of the kind of people carrying the most privilege and having the least impact of negative decisions. For example, Twitter did not start sanitizing location data in photos until women joined the team and indicated that such data can be used for stalking. W…

It's not OpenAI. It's ClawCon.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by the_mar »

noosphr wrote: post #212
Ampned wrote: post #96

It’s not like Anthropic or OpenAI were not working on “AI assistants” before OpenClaw, it’s pretty much the endgame as I can see it. This guy just single handedly released something useful (and very insecure) before anyone else. Although that’s impressive, I don’t see more than an acquisition of the hype by OpenAI.

OpenAI has been running around headless for at least two years now. I've build systems like openclaw, based on email, at my day job and told OAI during an interview that they needed to build this or get smoked when someone else does. I guess aqi-hire is easier than building a team that can develop software internally. Of course the S in openclaw is for security.

I mean, do you think no one at OAI and every other lab has vibe-coded some agentic demo? The problem (?) is that when you work at a corporate job you have to think about security.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by the_mar »

elAhmo wrote: post #874
potamic wrote: post #498

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most things that go viral actually have a concerted marketing push behind them. I suspect that was the case here. Something about the way people talked about it didn't come across as very genuine.

As someone who attended numerous meetups from the author and saw the vibe among those events, believe me it was as genuine as it can get.

do you genuinely think that numerous meetups isn't a marketing push?

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by Aperocky »

Balinares wrote: post #723
erikbye wrote: post #537

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny to me how still so many don't realize you don't get hired for the best positions for being a 10x programmer who excels at hackerrank, you get hired for your proven ability to deliver useful products. Creativity, drive, vision, whatever. Code is a means to an end. If you're the type of programmer who thinks of yourself as just a programmer, and take pride in your secure code, ability to optimize functions a…

I literally got my current cushy gig to fix a codebase that was crumbling under its own unmaintainable weight at a company that, like you, thought that quality doesn't matter. This is not the first time in my career I get a great job that way. "Quality doesn't matter" people are why I'm not worried about employment. While there is value in getting features out fast, definitely, there always comes a point on your scal…

This is where the debate has another axis - when.

Quality matters, delivery speed matters, shipping also matters, where it matters and when it matters is much harder to get right. But it's also self correcting - if you don't, the project or business die - you can only get it wrong for so much or for so long.

To only discuss on one axis is presumably why GNU Hurd have never shipped or how claude-c-compiler doesn't compile hello world.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by gmerc »

ryanmcgarvey wrote: post #384
Aurornis wrote: post #357

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> You can switch models multiple times (online/proprietary, open weight, local), but you have one UI : OpenClaw. It’s only been a couple months. I guarantee people will be switching apps as others become the new hot thing. We saw the same claims when Cursor was popular. Same claims when Claude Code was the current topic. Users are changing their app layer all the time and trying new things.

Memory. I have built up so many scripts and crons and integrated little programs and memories with open claw it would be difficult to migrate to some other system. System of record and all.

Have you heard about this thing called AI coding agent....

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by Aperocky »

hobofan wrote: post #581
phamilton wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an experiment, I set it up with a z.ai $3/month subscription and told it to do a tedious technical task. I said to stay busy and that I expect no more than 30 minutes of inactivity, ever. The task is to decompile Wave Race 64 and integrate with libultraship and eventually produce a runnable native port of the game. (Same approach as the Zelda OoT port Ship of Harkinian). It set up a timer ever 30 minutes to check…

So, you don't know if it has produced anything valuable yet?

That sound like being a manager IRL.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by bleudeballe »

Balinares wrote: post #723
erikbye wrote: post #537

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny to me how still so many don't realize you don't get hired for the best positions for being a 10x programmer who excels at hackerrank, you get hired for your proven ability to deliver useful products. Creativity, drive, vision, whatever. Code is a means to an end. If you're the type of programmer who thinks of yourself as just a programmer, and take pride in your secure code, ability to optimize functions a…

I literally got my current cushy gig to fix a codebase that was crumbling under its own unmaintainable weight at a company that, like you, thought that quality doesn't matter. This is not the first time in my career I get a great job that way. "Quality doesn't matter" people are why I'm not worried about employment. While there is value in getting features out fast, definitely, there always comes a point on your scal…

The Youtube mobile app is a nightmare to use, and has been for months (desktop is working quite well but I am using my phone 95% of the time). Reopening a short shows me a few frames of the next video before freezing, shorts die on second play constantly, history crashes because of shorts, changing to videos brings them back but navigating to shorts crashes again.

This has been reliably going on for at least 6+ months, I thought shorts was a big priority for them, but the UX is and remains horrible.

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