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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by darthwalsh »

cookiengineer wrote: post #131
dsissitka wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the incident: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41837782 https://dmpwn.info/

> dmpwn Kinda horrible to see that the 4chan bigots use the same strategy to try to discredit drew devault, and implying things of ownership through their own created fake accounts and smearing campaigns. Pretty much all allegations on that page are circumstantial evidence, especially the bot ownership parts that sircmpwn even took down while citing those bigots using it to scrape child porn. And then the dude of dmp…

Do you have evidence the accounts are fake? That all those accounts are fake?

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by DANmode »

ajkjk wrote: post #914
DANmode wrote: post #817

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If they wanted to walk without that freedom, they’d be hacking on shit over at Mozilla (or similar - likely for more money) right?

I have no idea what you're talking about

I’m not too sure how to help with that.

Read more about contributing to open source, who contributes, under what circumstances.

For example: are you familiar with Linus Torvalds?

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by mcdonje »

samdoesnothing wrote: post #821
barnabee wrote: post #763

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> I don't care about ICE one way or another, Which is itself a political position, a privileged one at that

What an incredibly arrogant statement. Not everyone is American for starters.

Not being an American is a privileged position regarding an issue that negatively affects Americans. It's no different than if I, an American, fail to care about, say, Hungary's slide into autocracy. I am privileged to be able to not care about it.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by brendoelfrendo »

wilg wrote: post #872
brendoelfrendo wrote: post #355

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Ok, fine; that was hyperbole. They are incrementally making their product worse in very visible ways and for some reason refuse to fix it or change course. I mean, in introducing these inconveniences to their users they are technically making the world worse, but sure, not in a way that matters.

And that rises to the bar of "insult and denigrate people" to you? Because you're annoyed with their recent product decisions?

No, corpo bullshit rises to the "insult and denigrate people" level. Bad product decisions are forgivable, even understandable. We all make bad decisions. Microsoft's recent product decisions and corporate direction, meanwhile, should be viewed as hostile.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by throwawaymaths »

paulddraper wrote: post #731
throwawaymaths wrote: post #343

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The website is not covered by the CoC, so they are not in abeyance

Ziglang.org disconnected from the Zig Code of Conduct is wild. I really want to pull on that thread more, to see how far you’ll go to defend an indefensible position, but I won’t.

it is what it is. i didnt write it, i was surprised when i read it too.

> This document contains the rules that govern these spaces only:

> The ziglang organization on Codeberg

> #zig IRC channel on Libera.chat

> Zig project development Zulip chat

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by solatic »

veverkap wrote: post #858
solatic wrote: post #461

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You cannot divorce a product from the people who built it. The product reflects their priorities and internal group well-being. A different group of people would have built a different product.

If you've worked in a large company, you know that the product reflects the priorities of the company so much more than the people who work there. Leadership states the priority and the employees do what they're told.

Leadership is part of the group of people who built the product, therefore different leadership would have also built a different product.

With that said, it's also not correct to claim that line folk have no influence at all. I don't believe that you can blame any individual since they may have stood up against something bad being put in the product, but they're still part of a collective group of people that built a bad product.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by queenkjuul »

rvcas wrote: post #768
MildlySerious wrote: post #579

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People protesting ICE do not do so out of political concern, but humanitarian concern. This seems like a minor nitpick as those two are intimately tangled up, but it matters to make the distinction. Standing up for others is not petty or self-serving and that's exactly what this sort of conflation can falsely imply.

Just because people have a revolutionary fetish and fantasize about being the ones to stop Hitler in 1933 (they would not have) does not make their delusions a reality. These dorks make anti-establishment vibes so lame. Just because you say something doesn’t make it real.

You should've met the nice boys from ice here in Chicago, I'm sure they'd have treated you real well

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by queenkjuul »

andrew_ wrote: post #764
MildlySerious wrote: post #579

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People protesting ICE do not do so out of political concern, but humanitarian concern. This seems like a minor nitpick as those two are intimately tangled up, but it matters to make the distinction. Standing up for others is not petty or self-serving and that's exactly what this sort of conflation can falsely imply.

It's virtue signaling plain and simple. People who crafted their identities around the current thing in ~2017 are religiously attached to having to be part of the in group and can't let it go, and it inevitably bubbles up like this. This will no doubt rankle those who align with that group, but they are a pathetic remnant of a terrible period of rampant sociopathy.

Some of us witnessed ICE agents' rampant sociopathy with our own eyes. You could too if you wanted to.
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