How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

Post by Shindi » Fri, Oct 03, 2025, 4:33 PM UTC

Post by mrbonner » Fri, Oct 03, 2025, 4:38 PM UTC

zelphirkalt wrote: post #906

mrbonner wrote: post #351

The horror that starvation inflicts on the human mind is beyond comparison. My grandfather experienced this firsthand when he fled from the Japanese invasion, an occupation that stripped civilians of their food supply. He helplessly watched as his parents, relatives, and even his older brother succumbed one by one to hunger. Barely escaping the same fate, he fled the country just before starvation could claim his own…

My grandfather had to join Nazi German military towards the end of the war at the age of 15. Fully indoctrinated of course, thinking, that he must serve his country. Got captured in Russia, survived prisoner camps there, by eating grass to avoid starvation. He told me stories about the conditions there. Hard work, and every morning someone would be dead from the cold or from starvation, or from suffocating in puddles…

Post by ThrowMeAway1618 » Fri, Oct 03, 2025, 4:55 PM UTC

austhrow743 wrote: post #892

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #591

Israel's response to Oct 7th has been a major blackpill. Their strategy was, I think, as bad as it could possibly be. In fact, it really seemed, and still seems, like no strategy at all -- they lashed out wildly and extremely destructively, without a clear picture of what the post-war Gaza Strip will look like. Hamas successfully baited Israel into a disproportionate response that killed tens of thousands, if not hun…

Israel has tried responding to attacks by not killing hundreds of thousands of people, and that approach led to October 7th. It’s been way too short a time to tell if this will work, but responding in a softer manner has proven to not. Might work is better than won’t work.

   “When you have shot and killed a man you have in some measure clarified your 
   attitude toward him. You have given a definite answer to a definite problem. 
   For better or worse you have acted decisively. In a way, the next move is up 
   to him.”
   ― R.A. Lafferty

Post by starik36 » Fri, Oct 03, 2025, 5:05 PM UTC

lejalv wrote: post #262

starik36 wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netanyahu signed on. I am asking why Hamas won't accept it.

That's not true, if you’re referring to the Trump plan, as he contradicted one of the main points upon return to Israel. He selectively backed some part of it, which is not really “signing” on the same plan that was offered to other parties. Also, what value has Netanyahu’s word? I mean, after blowing up a truce unilaterally, after killing negotiators, after all the corruption reckoning that is coming to him if/when…

Post by munk-a » Fri, Oct 03, 2025, 5:11 PM UTC

falconroar wrote: post #794

munk-a wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a justification was given we'd be able to evaluate the worthiness of that decision - if there were technical notes about, for instance, food safety concerns, we could evaluate the justification against other standards in different areas of the world around proper formula storage. Without a justification the decision is arbitrary and silences any ability to push back against it within the normal bounds of dialog. A…

Starving infants is justifiable sometimes? When?