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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by somat »

nkrebs13 wrote: post #438
giancarlostoro wrote: post #96

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I think on-device models will be the breaking point for AI. Nobody wants to pay for a trillion dollar cloud bill. We've made consumers think that the only way you're paying for software is if you have to buy hardware that comes with it. If you want AI to truly blow up, make it run on potatoes. It doesnt have to do EVERYTHING, just specific needs. That said, what is with Android phones and their back cameras? They loo…

It's preference. I think the cameras on the non-pro iphones are so ugly -- especially the diagonal design. The pro cameras look ok to me. Can't not see my old college stove when I look at it, but I don't think it's too bad. I, too, am biased but prefer Pixel's camera layout. Visually, I like the symmetry of the camera bump on the back of the device. Functionally, the symmetrical bump means the device will not rock on…

The whole idea of needing a "camera bump" is sort of a ridiculous design choice just use the extra two millimeters for more battery. It is almost as goofy as the "notch"

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by unethical_ban »

bombita wrote: post #746
unethical_ban wrote: post #729

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I feel compelled to stick with GrapheneOS even though I install Play Services and meta apps. I do miss several Samsung features. Most of all, the ability to set the Always-On Display to only show when new notifications pop up. It is easier to see at a glance that I have a message vs. squinting at how many faint lines are displayed to see the messages icon. DeX is a novel concept too, and with Samsung you can do USB-C…

This is now supported from Pixel 8 and above.

You are correct, I was mistaken. I was thinking about the OnePlus.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by mieubrisse »

Fuzzwah wrote: post #471

This seems like a good place to randomly drop my thoughts on switching from a Samsung s20+ to a Pixel 9 Pro. The hardware is excellent in the hand. The display is great, battery life excellent, the UI is snappy, does all the basic things I expect from a quality device. Over all, no huge regrets..... but... The scrolling in every app is just "different" from the Samsung, and in a "not as good" way. I moved to Pixel wi…

Re. what apps can run in the background - have you checked out the "allow background battery usage"? This has worked so far for me.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by jama211 »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #832
jama211 wrote: post #768

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Well, considering I also made the point that computers range (very roughly, work with me here) from $500 - $3500 depending on how upmarket they are, and phones range from $100 - $1500 depending on how upmarket they are, I can’t make an argument for why they’re more expensive, because they’re not. I can list a _few_ EXAMPLE reasons for why they cost what they cost though, even if that’s higher than you expect them to…

Well none of those are on par with a Ferrari expense except sometimes the camera. I wasn't asking for ways a specific feature could cost a bit more than the laptop version. Yeah I can come up with those myself, and many of them cut both ways like screens and durability. And the comparison wasn't all phones and computers, it's phones like the pixel versus a decent baseline computer.

Fair enough. I will say the point of the Ferrari analogy wasn’t to demonstrate that the features would have a similarly astronomical gulf in price between one model and another, it was merely to demonstrate the issue with cherry picking features when talking about price differences. So, none of my examples had to meet a “Ferrari expense” as that wasn’t the purpose of the analogy.

But yeah, I think we understand each other.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by jama211 »

mnmalst wrote: post #807
jama211 wrote: post #747

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That’s another issue, those same users won’t tolerate paying more for a smaller phone. They’re picky and principled, which is a customer type that is just not worth chasing at scale.

Hi, my name is PickyAndPrincipled. Ha, that describes me perfectly and is the reason why I still use a Pixel 4a. It works still great and has a nice form factor.

And that’s fine! Just don’t be surprised when new phone manufacturers don’t see an incentive in catering to you.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by jama211 »

coldpie wrote: post #825
jama211 wrote: post #745

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I’m sorry what? I read that comment and all I see is someone incapable of understanding that other people’s needs differ from their own, and only _smart_ people pick the choice that they themselves would make. It reeks of ignorance and being judgemental.

Haha. To close the loop on the comparison, you'll notice that the people I'm calling smart do not get what they want, in the end. Maybe not so smart after all, eh?

Doubling down is bold, but to be honest if you had the self reflection required to see my point, you wouldn’t have said what you said in the first place.

It is only your blind ego that is making you incorrectly assume these things about other people.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by jama211 »

Cyph0n wrote: post #372
zamadatix wrote: post #132

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It's interesting how this type of feedback always comes up for phones yet smaller phones have an extremely hard time actually selling enough units to justify making more of them. It seems part of it may be folks remaining in this group seem much more willing to stick with old devices anyways, helping drive less priority for small sizes on top of already being a smaller market segment. Perhaps there are some other big…

It’s a HN meme at this point. For as long as I can remember, almost every single phone announcement on this site inevitably gets a bunch of comments about how it’s too big and how a smaller version would sell like hotcakes. You would think that phone manufacturers would have figured this out by now, but what do they know.

Lol yep. They always seem to think that the companies haven’t considered this properly and are missing out on some imagined huge market haha

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by jama211 »

ethbr1 wrote: post #888
jama211 wrote: post #741

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You don’t take your phone when you’re camping???

Yes. And it stays in the tent. InReach mini comes with. Being connected to the internet or digital media is the last fucking thing I want when I'm in the woods.

Well done, your self congratulatory prize will be in the mail.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by cenamus »

nfriedly wrote: post #323
cenamus wrote: post #253

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I think the rear looking bigger is an artifact of the zoom, where your brain expects it to look smaller, but it's actually the same size due to the extreme cropping

No, it's definitely wider in the photo. The rear tire is about double the width of my mouse pointer while the front tire is about 1x the width. That said, as other commentators have mentioned, it might also be wider in real life, so not necessarily an artifact at all.

And the height?

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by tgma »

prmoustache wrote: post #818
tgma wrote: post #602

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Linux performs quite well on M1/M2 Macs (I'd even argue they are the best laptops to run Linux), almost counter-intuitively to some people's expectations. The worst Macs to run Linux on are actually the last Intel models with T1/T2 stuff. It takes some time for folks to port to new M chips as they come out but once they do, due to the popularity and similar peripherals they work well.

Hasn't porting of newer models completely stalled since the departure of the 2 motivated and skilled individuals that made it originally possible?

I'm not following the drama, but even an older M1 Pro Mac beats almost every other PC laptop for Linux unless you specifically need x86 (or in love with OLED panels). In fullness of time, Macs are popular enough that I am confident Linux will be ported.
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