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Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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I have a feeling OpenAI will eventually be looked back on as the company that forced Google to release its internal AI product and then died a slow death.

But can they transition from being "the lab that shocked the world" to a sustainable product company in a hyper-competitive space?

I would be very, very surprised if any of the players in this space can make anything sustainable.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does Ive need to be churning out continuous hits? There is no shame in quitting while ahead, or considering your previous success to be a tough act to follow. I feel similar about Zuckerberg. That guy should just let the government break up his empire, let some other people run the pieces, and retire. Otherwise he just faces humiliation and being in over his head. But I guess ego keeps these people going.

Maybe they just enjoy doing what they do?

Weirdly, people often avoid relinquishing power

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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post #701

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What exact use cases do I get from being able to talk to chatGPT when I am out in public? I can think of close to 0 value add to have an AI voice in my head when I'm taking a walk in the park or out to dinner.

On a dedicated device no less…what’s the point?! You have a phone.

Recently, I've been moving back to 'dedicated items' instead of 'everything on the phone'.

It might be an old guy finding a love for vinyl, but having a dedicated camera, a dedicated notebook, a dedicated music player ... makes making photos, writing down notes or listening to music somehow more ... meaningful to me. Maybe because I do not get distracted by the other 999 functionalities of the phone while I am trying to take photos, listen to music, or writing something down.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

#924

A while back someone here on Hacker News made a pretty insightful comment that as great of a designer as Jony Ive is, a large part of his success is owed to the fact that he had an "editor" in the form of Steve Jobs. Once Jobs passed, he no longer really had an editor. It remains to be seen whether Sam Altman / OpenAI in general will be a good editor

Given how messy the model names are and some of the failures like 'GPTs' I get the sense that he's pretty hands-off and mostly focuses on picking the people and then letting them do what they want. Maybe that'll work with Ive, maybe not.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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post #882

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Altman clearly has vision and a sense for where the puck is going with AI, but being a design editor is something else entirely

Altman is a new era conman, he does not have any vision whatsoever.

thank you

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

#927

OpenAI announcement: https://openai.com/sam-and-jony/

The quotes at the bottom are funny because they have a share link which implies that Sam and Jony thought they were insightful enough that people would want to actively share them. Even in the extreme tech crowd, who would share those?

My reaction was just the same, but look at gruber:

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/05/21/sam-and-jony-io

and gruber is stirring up drama about why his links don't do well on hn.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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post #830

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This is a bit of a risk for Ive, as until now he is credited with Apple's lauded design. If he does not produce an immediate success it'll be brand damaging and wobble on his reputation. I also suspect it might go that way: post-Ive designs have been credited as being better, particularly around apple's laptops that were perceived as too heavily favouring form over function. More realistically Apple's design is good…

Why does Ive need to be churning out continuous hits? There is no shame in quitting while ahead, or considering your previous success to be a tough act to follow. I feel similar about Zuckerberg. That guy should just let the government break up his empire, let some other people run the pieces, and retire. Otherwise he just faces humiliation and being in over his head. But I guess ego keeps these people going.

I think having a founder stay on and lead, well after they are financially independent is very respectable. It says they are interested in more than just chilling on the beach.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

#929

A while back someone here on Hacker News made a pretty insightful comment that as great of a designer as Jony Ive is, a large part of his success is owed to the fact that he had an "editor" in the form of Steve Jobs. Once Jobs passed, he no longer really had an editor. It remains to be seen whether Sam Altman / OpenAI in general will be a good editor

Altman clearly has vision and a sense for where the puck is going with AI, but being a design editor is something else entirely

For me, OpenAI's venture into AI adjacent things (Windsurf, JI's company), is a signal that they are no longer seriously pursuing AGI.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

#930
It's interesting reading through the comments here. Lots of people slating Jony Ive. Is it a newer generation that doesn't know his work or an older generation that's forgotten?

The man has produced some of the greatest design work in the last few decades. Sure there were missteps (particularly in the quest for thinness in the laptop products) but he led design on some of the most iconic products and some of the most widely used products of all time.

iMac G3/4/5. iBook. iPod/Mini/Nano/Shuffle. iPhone. MacBook Air. iPad. Apple Watch. Not one person or company even comes close to having that kind of influence globally.

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