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Re: 4chan Sharty Hack And Janitor Email Leak

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

tovej wrote: post #847
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #838

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>There are a lot of people who have nothing to contribute to a conversation, While true, the few people who do have something to contribute to a conversation simply can't do so on a highly-sanitized, heavily-moderated forum. The things they'd say would be too upsetting to a status quo, and the status quo will win. There is a real difference between something truly insightful and flat earth theory, but outsourcing tha…

No moderation is still worse. It means that -- especially with 4chans activity-based thread sorting -- the most "engaging" (read: rage-inducing) content gets bubbled up without fail. AND that you can drive away all reasonable people with, e.g. gore or absolutely reprehensible political views. Views that are not only explicitly racist but genocidal. The board is called /pol/, but it doesn't actually discuss politics,…

>There's no serious policy discussion going on here.

Presumably leftypol is underrepresented on /pol/ because it's overrepresented everywhere else. Additionally it crucially relies on favorable moderation, so it really opts out on its own.

Re: 4chan Sharty Hack And Janitor Email Leak

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Post by Macha »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #902
Macha wrote: post #150

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Which are far far outnumbered by people setting up squarespace sites, or shopify sites or facebook pages or twitter profiles these days. It was definitely true at one point that small scale indie web devs and small business contractors outnumbered big tech in both headcount and servers. I don't think that's been true for a while now.

That’s not what the stats show. WordPress powers 43% of websites today. Shopify, Wix, and Squarespace together only account for 11%. https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management

Here's their "10 popular sites using Wordpress"

- microsoft.com - It's not wordpress, probably home grown

- wordpress.org - This one's a freebie

- digicert.com - Using Adobe Experience Manager, per script includes

- wordpress.com - Another freebie

- mozilla.org - No, using a homegrown CMS: https://github.com/mozilla/nucleus

- nih.gov - It's using Drupal, per a meta generator tag

- forbes.com - No real for or against evidence, though the lack of any wp- paths leans a little more against it being wordpress

- archive.org - It's some type of react app, not wordpress. Probably home grown

- nginx.org - Just... no.

- ebay.com - Would it surprise you, no.

I have serious questions about their methodology.

Similarly, just because sites like Techcrunch use Wordpress, doesn't mean they're doing it by having someone upload files over FTP to some cPanel managed Godaddy account.

Re: 4chan Sharty Hack And Janitor Email Leak

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Post by slackfan »

gaiagraphia wrote: post #757
Havoc wrote: post #726

4chan sized site that gets attention from all sorts of unique people...ran ancient php? Ouch

Makes you wonder what all these 'advanced frameworks' have actually offered the internet.. (hard mode: don't mention advertising)

Trick question, they haven't. (Perl was the pinnacle of webdev and I anybody telling you otherwise is lying, or a javascript programmer.)

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Post by weberer »

wewxjfq wrote: post #177
brigandish wrote: post #98

I see a lot of hate for 4chan here. Why? I’ve never used it, know it by reputation, but not sure why there’s so much hate for it.

This still stings: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6747373

>Why it's impossible to use PHP even though millions of people are doing great things with it

Re: 4chan Sharty Hack And Janitor Email Leak

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Post by Calinterman »

immibis wrote: post #473
Calinterman wrote: post #310

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It actually isn't, have you ever tried attending any real life function? An account with Meta is almost a requirement to even get in the door.

Uh, yes? What kind of functions are you trying to attend? If you go to C3 and show people your Facebook account, you will rightfully be mocked (unless it's an admin account you're not supposed to have).

Pretty much any major gathering of people older than 25 will have people asking for your facebook/instagram. At least in my experience. This includes real life functions like fundraisers, meet-ups, club events, anything involving a charity or an official event. As someone without a Meta account, I'm just as shocked by it as anyone else.

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Post by Calinterman »

sleepybrett wrote: post #314
Calinterman wrote: post #301

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I feel too many people who conflate /pol/ with the whole website are just regurgitating information they heard from other social media sites. The most popular boards, by far, since 2020 have been the video game and vtuber boards. With Video Game generals being the most popular board for the past five years outside of the occasional political season. You can check this on 4stats. People who still complain about /pol/…

sorry buddy, but it's the nazi bar analogy. Let one nazi into your bar the whole bar is a nazi bar. I don't care if some other sub-board is all sunshines and happiness, it's a nazi forum because of all the nazis that are coddled there.

Wow you must have a HARROWING life trying to use the internet with that attitude. Have you just never heard of social media before? The other sites have a history of extremist groups all across the world posting pictures of murders to their platform, and you're probably okay using those.

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Post by klodolph »

flobosg wrote: post #789
klodolph wrote: post #74

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Frutiger Aero didn’t exist before 2017.

The term was coined that year but the actual style exists at least since, well, Windows Aero: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Aero#Legacy

I don’t think that this corresponds to the thing called “Frutiger Aero”.

The Windows Aero style existed in 2004, and somewhere around 2017, the style Frutiger Aero was invented, partly based on those styles but partly new.

Just like Vaporwave.

Some aesthetics existed in the past (like art deco), some are invented out of materials from the past (like art deco revival).

Re: 4chan Sharty Hack And Janitor Email Leak

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Post by Calinterman »

lukas099 wrote: post #616
lastcobbo wrote: post #406

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That’s a silly thing to think about any site on the internet. Have you vetted every person on any site you post on? Or even this thread? If not, how do you expect a moderator to do that? This isn’t a pub, it’s a site used by tens of thousands of people.

Yes but if you go on /pol/ for an hour you are guaranteed to see nazi shit. I don't think they were saying that one nazi on the board means it's a nazi board, I think that part scales up when mapping the analogy to real life.

I mean, you could say the same about reddit or instagram depending on which people or subjects you follow on those platforms. They may have more moderation and checks to user identity but the problem is the same. This is coming from someone who quit using it altogether because of the 2016 elections: Trying to judge an anonymous platform with zero entry-level checks on what slips through isn't logical when that same standard suddenly doesn't apply when one puts the same logic on billion dollar companies who have all the moderation in the world and still can't clean their platforms up.

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Post by Calinterman »

sumeno wrote: post #634
lastcobbo wrote: post #406

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That’s a silly thing to think about any site on the internet. Have you vetted every person on any site you post on? Or even this thread? If not, how do you expect a moderator to do that? This isn’t a pub, it’s a site used by tens of thousands of people.

I don't post on sites that cater to nazis, if a website starts catering to nazis I stop visiting it. It's incredibly easy

That's fine, but I hope you don't also use Youtube, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, etc. while you say that. Or maybe even this site if the comments at the very bottom of this page are to be believed.
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