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Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by cess11 »

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The israeli impunity has likely made Russia more ruthless in Ukraine, with for example attacks on hospitals. Sudan is an interesting example to bring up, since the RSF is closely connected with Israel's friends in the UAE, and the UAE has recently asked the US to help them avoid responsibility for what they've done. The Assad regime clinged to power in part in the way it did because it was what Israel preferred, isra…

as I assumed, any evil in the world is because of jews (and their "friends") in your eyes. Was it also the jews who made Russia ruthless in Chechnya? How about Gulag? Must have been Israel’s fault! And what about the Khmer Rouge? I’m sure you will find a jewish trace there. Thanks for clarifying, but be aware your hate is always transparent to some.

To understand this reaction it might be a good idea to watch this Yoav Shamir documentary from 2009, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTAjc1OSrmY .

It is antisemitic to equate 'the jews' with zionism and the state of Israel.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by cess11 »

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Why do you think you're allowed to murder children if they are close to people engaged in legitimate resistance to occupation? If what I write incite hatred towards the palestinians in you, that's a you problem and you should probably seek out professional help with that.

Terrorism is not legitimate – that’s pretty basic. And I think IDF is allowed to pursue the destruction of Hamas, because that is what international law says. If someone fires rockets that can kill thousands they are a legitimate target. "IHL prohibits attacks that may be expected to cause excessive incidental civilian harm in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated. In the conduct of hosti…

What do you mean by "Hamas"? In zionist parlance it is usually a euphemism for palestinians or arabs generally.

Do you get payed for hasbara or do you volunteer for some other reason?

Only a few countries consider Hamas to be a terrorist organisation. It's unlikely Bibi does, since he got Qatar to give him money in suitcases to drive into the Gaza strip, because banks didn't want to touch it due to the risk of sanctions. At the time he didn't think he could get away with genocide, but he likely does now.

There is nothing the armed wings of Hamas, PIJ, PFLP and so on has done or could do in the short to medium term that comes even close to what Israel is doing and has been doing for a very long time. You do not care about international humanitarian law or human life.

I've been looking at footage of maimed small children more or less daily for more than a year. Of course I feel hatred, as would any sane person. The difference between you and me is that I would like to see justice, I would like the perpetrators to be brought to the Hague and given due process, while you spread misinformation in the service of heinous crimes to help facilitate genocide and apartheid.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by cess11 »

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Regarding the US I agree. One should not do business with Alphabet either and it would be proper to apply sanctions. This is the response I would have preferred from the EU, rather than some tariffs. Israel does not represent the jews or judaism, and it is antisemitic to claim otherwise.

Maybe let jews speak of what represents them. Definite majority of jews have direct family connection to Israel as well as cultural ties. If 75% of Israel’s population are jews, then who do you refer to, when you identify the people of Israel with their government? Do you mean the Arabs, the Druze and the Samaritans? Probably not.

I think most jews have refused to do aliyah, and jews are a common sight in protests against US-Israeli atrocities.

I also think you mean israeli palestinians, not "Arabs", which is a slur in everyday israeli discourse. It's a society with the informal slogan 'death to arabs', as you probably know.

Most israeli jews agree with apartheid and the genocidal politics of the state they live under. There are regular polls that show this, e.g. from the Israel Democracy Institute. Very few take action against the state on this issue, and the large anti-Bibi protests are general opposition protests, they basically want a deal to get hostages and prisoners out, and then resumed genocide, i.e. the line of the parliamentary opposition.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by gryzzly »

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No use arguing with such a hateful person, but other people can easily see what Gaza was before they launched their genocide against Jews on October 7: https://x.com/imshin https://t.me/ImshinJ Check how does "concentration camp" look before Hamas started a war at expense of the peaceful population on both sides. There are many "Before October 7" videos on there, all with timestamps and sources from clips that Gazans…

Genocide denial and denial of state atrocities are illegal in some jurisdictions. Are you sure this is a risk you're willing to take? At October 7th the Gaza strip was under occupation, with the population on the verge of starvation. That is not peaceful. It was also the deadliest year in a long time for palestinians in the occupied West Bank. An openly genocidal, kahanist-likudnik government had taken power in Israe…

hey, you, no need to threaten me, south africa doesnt stand a chance and your blood libel will soon bust when this ridiculous allegation will be put to a side. you are a hate mongerer and a liar, i am disgusted by you.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by gryzzly »

cess11 wrote: post #920
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No use arguing with such a hateful person, but other people can easily see what Gaza was before they launched their genocide against Jews on October 7: https://x.com/imshin https://t.me/ImshinJ Check how does "concentration camp" look before Hamas started a war at expense of the peaceful population on both sides. There are many "Before October 7" videos on there, all with timestamps and sources from clips that Gazans…

Genocide denial and denial of state atrocities are illegal in some jurisdictions. Are you sure this is a risk you're willing to take? At October 7th the Gaza strip was under occupation, with the population on the verge of starvation. That is not peaceful. It was also the deadliest year in a long time for palestinians in the occupied West Bank. An openly genocidal, kahanist-likudnik government had taken power in Israe…

again, there is documented video footage of good life, better than in most arab countries in the region. the fact you refuse to believe reality goes well with everything that you spew out.

and defense is a real right, unlike terrorism, if you pick violence, the other side will defend itself - so you are just glorifying more death, and are blind to your bloodlust, which is disgusting.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by gryzzly »

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thanks for the explaining where you come from. it is indeed sad to hear that so few of the palestinians you have talked to are interested in peace and introspection. hamas is objectively the main reason for gazans’ misery and yet you didn’t meet the brave people who speak against them. anyway, it is also shunned in that community (especially expats who go to pro-palestinian demonstrations) to doubt the narrative of t…

> hamas is objectively the main reason for gazans’ misery and yet you didn’t meet the brave people who speak against them This is the kind of speech I was talking about. You are shifting the blame of the Gaza genocide, and the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories away from the perpetrators of said genocide and occupation and onto the people who are fighting said occupation. This is exactly the kind of sp…

do you understand how grave is an accusation of genocide? what gives you the right to say this as a matter of fact? this is the hate and the lie, and you have absolutely no right to judge based on attending some hateful demonstrations. that’s it.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by gryzzly »

runarberg wrote: post #918
gryzzly wrote: post #917

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thanks for the explaining where you come from. it is indeed sad to hear that so few of the palestinians you have talked to are interested in peace and introspection. hamas is objectively the main reason for gazans’ misery and yet you didn’t meet the brave people who speak against them. anyway, it is also shunned in that community (especially expats who go to pro-palestinian demonstrations) to doubt the narrative of t…

> hamas is objectively the main reason for gazans’ misery and yet you didn’t meet the brave people who speak against them This is the kind of speech I was talking about. You are shifting the blame of the Gaza genocide, and the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories away from the perpetrators of said genocide and occupation and onto the people who are fighting said occupation. This is exactly the kind of sp…

the blame of suffering in gaza is on Hamas, there isn’t any reason to not repeat this and you better try to understand it, if you dont want more violence in the region.

you can name many “indigenous people who fell victims” who butchered a thousand civilians and then took 250 hostage? what are you talking about with your inappropriate comparisons?

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by theGnuMe »

jdgoesmarching wrote: post #530
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most people here are also in security and still haven't heard. It's more likely backroom kickbacks (and/or mossad) than invisible unicorn.

Security is a big field. I’m in the CSPM space and Wiz is a major player here, I actually had a bit of an existential crisis about what we were building when I first saw a demo of their platform. Most of their competitors, like Palo Alto, have a very convoluted offering from gluing together several acquisitions. Wiz is very cohesive with a much nicer API and great UX, which is very underrated in the security space im…

How does Wiz work? What is the ELI 5 or tldr?

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by gryzzly »

cess11 wrote: post #921
gryzzly wrote: post #912

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as I assumed, any evil in the world is because of jews (and their "friends") in your eyes. Was it also the jews who made Russia ruthless in Chechnya? How about Gulag? Must have been Israel’s fault! And what about the Khmer Rouge? I’m sure you will find a jewish trace there. Thanks for clarifying, but be aware your hate is always transparent to some.

To understand this reaction it might be a good idea to watch this Yoav Shamir documentary from 2009, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTAjc1OSrmY . It is antisemitic to equate 'the jews' with zionism and the state of Israel.

plurality of opinion is a wonderful thing, but one fringe position doesn’t make a person right or the authority on a subject.

Self reflection is great, and also is greatly missing from how you describe the palestinians. The palestinians don’t have agency in your view, and are only victims which is simply not the case.

The fact the jews are free to speak what they think (unlike majority of palestinians) is great, however one jew’s opinion doesn’t deny the opinion of majority of jews – that’s pretty easy. And your accusations of genocide and hateful intent on the side of all israelis (including these who go to IDF to protect their families), and claims of "shooting children" intentionally are all simply showing the fact that you are an antisemite, and majority of jews will feel the same way, no matter how many exceptions, Finkelsteins, or Shamirs you will find.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by guappa »

leftcenterright wrote: post #543
happyopossum wrote: post #281

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> - Now cloud provider has to acquire the security company to secure their own cloud? No - this acquisition is about selling Wiz to cloud customers. Deploying on cloud securely is a solved problem if you set and follow good policies. Virtually nobody is doing this, ergo companies like Wiz that will tell you when you're doing something stupid.

> if you set and follow good policies Is it really that hard? like I listed out, it is definitely not cheap. There isn't a shortage of skilled engineers in IT after massive layoffs. What's the catch then?

You can provision a vm with a click and then after a few years nobody has any clue what these machines do, if they're still needed and if their access levels are reasonable.
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