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Re: DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data

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I've worked with older governmental systems, and chances are they are running a wide variety of systems, some of which, the oldest and most critical, are probably written in COBOL running on IBM mainframe hardware. In those environments, there is no real distinction between "database" and "application". COBOL systems are very file- and batch-oriented, and are "monolithic" in the extremist sense. The technology itself…

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Re: DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data

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Slanted political article. Flagged.

Yeah, they really aren't happy the corruption is being unearthed, this is above and beyond anything they were planning.

Hell, there should have been massive riots by the left now, though the funding has now disappeared for the professional organisers and rent a crowd.

Democrats are 20 mil in debt from the election, and now their money funnels have been closed down. They simply weren't expecting this.

Re: DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data

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This is a very dramatic take on something you (and many others) are making extremely broad presumptions upon. It’s clear that DOGE is reviewing payment data and has the same access to various components of the US Govt that Obama’s US Digital Services, created to rebuild the ACA website but also provisioned for a number of other digital services. DOGE has the same access to services that USDS had. USDS was praised for…

This is wrong and naive. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/doge-dives-into-core-na... "DOGE currently has far deeper and far more extensive access to U.S. government computer systems — and is far deeper into the national security space — than is conceivably necessary for anything related to their notional brief and goals."

Maybe naïve, but not wrong. They have access that any American citizen should have access to, and the only authority they really have is to flag items for review. The DOGE team is sensational, but i would bet an enormous sum that Trump has a much larger team that the sensationalized DOGE team at making decisions. It’s childish to believe the media’s talking points that there’s a bunch of children being allowed to run rampant controlling the government, especially in light of the recent “Biden is sharp as tack” media narrative.

From your link written by John Marshall, a “progressive liberal”: “It’s obvious that you’d want to be very cautious about centralizing this much power in anyone’s hands, especially people working outside all existing frameworks of oversight and accountability.” It’s called.. the President. The whole point of electing a president alongside of congress is to have a consolidated point of power.

Re: DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data

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call me Naive and paint me a fool, but I do think this is going to go down as Musk's lifetime achievement. Think about it, he has money, he has arguably built great companies, and now, for his masterpiece, he can, and I honestly believe he will.....CURE DEMOCRACY. I want him to succeed, because the next logical giant is CAPITALISM, and that one, in the collective interest of humanity, and planetary survival, needs FI…

I agree. It's nice to hear someone grounded discuss it.

A lot of people (particularly on Reddit) have been driven insane by psyops, they can't critically think outside what they are told to think anymore. It's amazing to watch, and also quite sad/scary

Re: DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data

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Could you please stop posting flamewar and ideological battle comments? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Also: please don't use 'edit' to do deletions that deprive replies of context. That's unfair to readers.

Re: DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data

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Could you please stop posting flamewar and ideological battle comments? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data

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Yeah I more concerned “God Mode” is a thing that exists. One would hope that these systems are heavily locked down but my experience maintaining legacy systems makes me think “God mode” is a thing you get because you have to run a quarterly report and it is too much of a hassle setting up the correct permissions.

Anyone who has ever had root on a database server has that access. There's no technology available that prevents the people responsible for correcting failing RAID volumes from reading blocks from /dev/sda. In theory, yes, there are DRM technologies that prevent you from getting a copy of a song Spotify stores in your cache. But those technologies are not used on multi-gigabyte databases. The only thing that protects…

Wow you know a lot about computers

Re: DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data

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At my first gig, I had "god" level access to our production database. All I learned is that nobody should have this level of access unless it is some sort of temporary break glass situation. It is extremely dangerous and even experienced engineers can cause irreparable data loss or some other bad outcome. In our case, some engineer accidentally sent around 10,000 invoices to customers that shouldn't have gotten them.…

Ultimately someone has root permissions. Re: federal agencies, in the United States, that someone is clearly, constitutionally, the President. Article II of the constitution vests all power of the executive in the person of the President. The President has authority to appoint agents. That same article _does also_ say the President has to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed", but the "Care" there is highl…

The power rests with the office. There is an important but nuanced distinction there.

Re: DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data

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post #862

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've worked with older governmental systems, and chances are they are running a wide variety of systems, some of which, the oldest and most critical, are probably written in COBOL running on IBM mainframe hardware. In those environments, there is no real distinction between "database" and "application". COBOL systems are very file- and batch-oriented, and are "monolithic" in the extremist sense. The technology itself…

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> For decades the tech industry has been the beating heart of this country that's kept the American dream alive

By "tech industry" do you mean the consumer surveillance industry? Maybe your vision of the American dream involves inescapable corporate control, but mine certainly doesn't!

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