My iPhone 14 Pro would be enough until the new Siri will come out in my language. So probably around iPhone 18.
My language was not even mentioned yesterday (italian)
iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
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#922No Apple financing on the unlocked phones?
The fact that phones needs to be financed or subsidised by the carriers should tell you that they are WAAAY to expensive.
I'm still of the opinion that Apple needs to make a cheaper phone. Starting a $1100 makes this something only very few will purchase on their own. It's an absolutely insane price.
The iPhone SE starts at $600 (4000DKK) that is still way to expensive. I really wish they'd make a "base" phone for around $150 (1000DKK). I don't need the fancy big screen, I don't care about FaceID, the camera was good enough on the iPhone 7, I don't care about the sensors, I don't care about AI, I don't care about games. I just need a phone that can run a few very simple app and has BlueTooth and tethering.
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#923I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…
I'm probably as techie as they get, but I'm 100% with your girlfriend. I don't care. The smartphone industry has not delivered anything truly novel in a decade or more, it's been endless fussing about notch vs no notch, which slightly-different form factor is back in fashion, etc. And on a lot of fronts has made things worse - bloated many-GB apps, ads, spyware, attention sucking practices of all kinds, poorly policed and overloaded app stores, etc.
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#924I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…
I am going to have to disagree. You do not have to be a techie to appreciate beauty and enjoy an OLED screen even if you can't tell the technical difference.
There is certainly a segment where "it takes photos" is a boolean, not a scale (my mum being in that group), and they will be perfectly happy with cheap Androids.
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#925I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…
I can understand and relate to this perfectly. In the past, I used an iPhone 11 or 12. At some point, I got fed up of the issues around FaceID with face mask and/or glasses. I switched to an older iPhone SE with a fingerprint button.
The switch didn't feel like a downgrade at all. I didn't miss any of the new fancy features. The only real downside that I ever noticed is the camera, which doesn't have night mode.
The thing about infinite growth, is that at some point things are "good enough" for users, and they have no reason to upgrade. So companies have to create problems to force them to upgrade, like device locking down the device and not offering new software support, or preventing users from swapping batteries.
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#926I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…
> She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED There are no LCDs in current lineup, I think. > nor would she notice Pro-motion This is kind of like "no one notices reduced air pollution". Yeah, but some people actually notice and even for those who don't it is a quality of life improver. > All the spectacular advances in computing power are lost on her as this makes zero difference for the Facebook cat video gr…
I think people absolutely notice new screens and scrolling, but the thing is with their current setup they have accepted the conditions. It's one of those things when you've tried the new thing, you don't want to go back to the old thing because scrolling will seem laggy, and screen will seem bad. So it's not necessarily that you need it, but once you have it, you can't go back.
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#927I’m probably in the minority, but a thing I’d love to see is a much stronger flashlight. It’s silly, but the flashlight is something I use almost daily and having a more powerful one would be quite useful.
Just a data point, I have a $800 watch (Garmin Fenix 7 Pro Sapphire) that has a built in LED flashlight, including a red hue. I bought it to have backup GPS in off grid situations and for health and activity tracking, but tbh the feature I would never want to give up is the flashlight. I use it all the time and it’s, frankly, invaluable. I’m not sure if other smart watches have good flashlights, but they should. I al…
Yep. I use the Garmin 955 flashlight all the time. It is how I navigate my house at night. I didn't know about the red hue option. Nice!
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#928I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…
Heck, I have friends in tech that in the past did iPhone 4, 6, 8, whether you were an "even number" or an "odd number" iPhone buyer became something of a label. One of these guys is on the 11 Pro, has the 16 Plus in his cart, but is actively texting the group chat whether or not to go through with it. If you feel Apple isn't actively facing a xx% risk to their business by 2030, you're beside yourself. Its not that pe…
I feel like Apple is in danger of missing the foldable market. It has matured on Android to the point that the quirks have been ironed mostly out, the inventions necessary has been made, etc. Meanwhile Apple has made nothing at all in that area.
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#929I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…
I don't know that I completely agree. To some degree, sure — most folks probably don't notice the year-to-year updates in e.g. computing power. But my 70yo mother, who is pretty far from being technologically savvy, uses continuity every day to copy one-time-use codes from her phone to her computer, even though she'd have no idea what the term "continuity" means in this context. She notices that it's easier to snap b…
This kind of proves the point? Presumably your mother didn't buy the latest phone for "continuity" or camera improvements. The features and additional hardware improvements might be noticeable after being used, but are they driving sales to people who aren't tech enthusiasts?
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#930I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…
> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. Battery replacement costs at Apple are $69-99 and offered all the way back to the iPhone SE 1st Generation. That's the all-in cost where you bring it in, they open it up, swap it out, and give your phone back to you. An OEM battery for an Android phone is like $50. Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years hardly seems like it's goin…
> An OEM battery for an Android phone is like $50.
I've done four or five battery replacements on various Pixel phones, each time battery was 15$ max. I've done the replacement myself, but I know that in an (unauthorized, obviously) repair shop the work costs maybe 10-15$ and takes twenty minutes. The math is the same for iPhones, maybe 10$ more.
69-99$ is an "Authorized Apple Service" tax.