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Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#921

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too…

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Any reccomendations?

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#922
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He was predominantly stealing US intellectual property, films, TV shows and music and the like. And unlike say normal use of bittorrent, making a lot of money off it. And being the largest player doing that. I'm not sure about the morals but you can certainly understand financially why they've gone after him.

Minor nitpick, but he was not stealing, he was infringing copyrights. To "steal" is to take another's rivalrous property without permission, such that you now possess it, but they no longer have it. To "infringe a copyright" is to make and distribute a copy of another person's work without their permission. Both illegal, but very different things. What targets of copyright infringement are losing is not their propert…

I agree. It was a simplified version of things.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#923

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too…

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Where can i find such sites

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#924

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too…

Naming of Hacker News is like Open AI.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#925

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I've never understood that sentiment. The US has the second amendment, and it doesn't seem to do much for personal freedom there. Europe does not, and I feel a lot more free in most European countries than I do in the US, especially when it comes to encounters with representatives of the state (LEOs).

There was a twitter thread where someone from Russia said he was beaten up by police in Netherlands during a peaceful protest. He was accused of attending the wrong protest by twitter Europhiles. Now, something tells me it's easy to feel safe when you conform.

Sad to hear that. Was that completely peaceful pretest? Why was police even involved then? For a record, I was never beaten up by a police officer, and I've attended all kinds of "wrong" protests (what is the right protest anyway).

Do you have a source? There's plenty of disinformation on the internet, and I'm curious to learn what has happened.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Oh wow, very surprising to learn that US constitution allows extradition of US citizens abroad

Why is that surprising?

I believe it could be surprising because a person's government has turned them over to a foreign government where they have no representation. The foreign government is not governed by the same Constitution, Bill of Rights, laws, or checks and balances. A core cultural understanding in the US is the rule of law and right of representation in a government by-and-for the people. It could seem like a loophole where the US government can forcibly remove a person's rights.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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That case of murder was not the only reason. And while it is based on misinformation (and I agree it was made on purpose), just one case would not cause the riots. It was just “the last drop”.

Perhaps you could explain the previous drops. I don't think they exist, other than as disinformation and propaganda. Migration of all forms is at a record high in the UK [0], yet violent crime is at an all-time low. How is violent crime correlated to migration, as so many people claim on Twitter, WhatsApp groups and Facebook pages? "What about the money we spend on them?", some ask. Well, contrary to popular belief,…

Don't forget about the Heisenberg immigrant, who is simultaneously

1. a lazy sponger who just came here to live on benefits

and

2. taking your job

Sky News interviewed someone recently who said he was against immigration because it meant he couldn't get a job. It turned out that this guy was a convicted sex offender who had been in prison for his offence. But no, it was definitely immigrants to blame for him not having a job.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#928

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too…

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>They are not "hackers" in anything but name

A sweeping generalisation. Being a "hacker" is a multidimensional thing. Most people here have a hacker spirit when it comes to curiosity and willingness to learn. The only thing we don't have in common with you idea of a hacker -in general- is the anti establishment attitude.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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If not the US, then who do you suggest could plausibly lead (I would even say prop up) the free world and the global economy?

Every dictator always claims they are irreplaceable.

What does this have to do with what I said?

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#930

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too…

Naming of Hacker News is like Open AI.

I miss when this place was full of wide-eyed CS undergrads, now it's just "Exploits in Venture Capitalism". Everyone has grown up and gotten themselves high paying, boring adtech jobs so now they feel the need to defend surveillance capitalism and "intellectual property" at every turn. We used to make fun of illegal numbers and censorship efforts, now we support them. I guess you either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain.
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