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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by lennxa »

elbear wrote: post #880
devTen85 wrote: post #803

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It's a chicken & Egg problem. I run a startup in Pune, and we just don't get good developers here. We are open to remote, and most of the good candidates are in Bangalore.

What's the explanation? Better schools in Bangalore or something else?

better schools is not a factor at all. right out of college, or a little later most of the high quality engineers move to Bangalore because that's where the jobs already are. once people settle down a bit, they tend to be averse to move on average. it's network effect and sheer inertia. no one really wants it this way.

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Post by astura »

throwaway19423 wrote: post #867
jorvi wrote: post #823

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> what they define as misbehaving is normal for kids. Right, sprinting back-and forth, ear-piercing screams at the top of their lungs, kicking chairs - all things we should just accept at a restaurant, for the sake of the parents. What terrible people we are for wanting a decent dining experience.

You were a helpless, innocent kid once too :)

When I was a kid the only restaurant I was allowed to go to was Friendly's, and only on my/my siblings birthdays. It was a HUGE treat and I knew to be on my very best behavior because if there was any acting up, even a little, I wouldn't be allowed out to eat out ever again.

Nowadays kids aren't expected to behave in a restaurant, so they don't. It's about expectations.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by ashleyn »

DoughnutHole wrote: post #636
thih9 wrote: post #600

Is the constant stream of flamebait (this action and other recent changes) helpful for twitter, or part of some larger strategy? To me the service seems increasingly unreliable and unprofessional. Then again, I no longer feel like I'm the target audience. The numbers seem bad too; revenue was 22% down in 2023[1]. Also, "global active daily users of X via mobile apps had steadily declined during the year after Musk ac…

Musk’s tweets and the unimpeded use of the platform for misinformation and coordinated violence give me the impression that he cares less about turning it into a profitable enterprise and more about its use as a tool to push his agenda and affect the cultural and political changes he desires.

There is plenty of evidence for this. E.g. banning the word "cis" as hate speech

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

willmadden wrote: post #541
MSFT_Edging wrote: post #440

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Cities tend to have a lower per-capita crime rate, it's just dense and visible. This is just suburban paranoia. Crime happens.

No, it's not just suburban paranoia. Travel to Tokyo or Singapore and then to S.F.

Spent a week walking around SF and saw no crime. It felt extremely safe.

Big tech made SF unaffordable and then loves to complain about the poverty left in it's wake. I don't care if tech workers feel uncomfortable in SF.

SF was rapidly gentrified to the point of mass homelessness, now they want to legislate a way to remove the homeless people that were made impoverished. I will never care/empathize with a hackernews poster complaining about crime in the Bay Area. You moved there, you demanded luxury, you demanded space for the luxury, you pushed the existing population out.

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Post by catskul2 »

hintymad wrote: post #412

There is a famous paper about the location of company headquarters: they get as close as possible to the residence of company CEOs. If we don't consider the CEO's influence, I'm actually curious if the location of company headquarters has to do with the average age of the employees in the Bay Area. As the employees start to have families, they most likely move to the south bay for better or for worse, and I have a ha…

I wonder if cheapish EVTOL travel might make a difference here. I.e. if CEOs effective travel time is reduced, does that affect headquarter location selection.

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

spiderice wrote: post #775
MSFT_Edging wrote: post #440

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Cities tend to have a lower per-capita crime rate, it's just dense and visible. This is just suburban paranoia. Crime happens.

According to who? Do you have a source? Top violent crime rate per capita US cities [1]: 1. St. Louis 2. Detroit 3. Baltimore 4. Memphis 5. Kansas City If we include all crime and not just violent crime, it’s still all large cities at the top. Not sure where you’re getting your info. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...

Per capita, smaller cities are outstanding in their crime.

Even Baltimore is down in 51st place.

This list is incomplete to boot. Large cities often called "war zone" by culture war fighters are largely safer than being in a small town.

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Post by rangestransform »

throwaway19423 wrote: post #867
jorvi wrote: post #823

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> what they define as misbehaving is normal for kids. Right, sprinting back-and forth, ear-piercing screams at the top of their lungs, kicking chairs - all things we should just accept at a restaurant, for the sake of the parents. What terrible people we are for wanting a decent dining experience.

You were a helpless, innocent kid once too :)

my parents did not bring a 3 year old crying baby into an airport lounge

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Post by hot_gril »

hi-v-rocknroll wrote: post #617
janalsncm wrote: post #371

Had a recruiter call with Twitter a few months ago. Mandatory in office 5 days per week. Among other things, an hour commute both ways to work was not acceptable. Maybe they will have better luck in Santa Clara. I don’t buy any of the flamebait reasons for leaving SF. Reason 1 is money and reason 2 is talent pool.

Santa Clara-San Jose area is relatively still damn expensive. (Ask me how I know.) Anywhere with an RTO mandate is a hard pass. If they want to treat their employees like children and waste my time and money on pointless commuting to feel in-control, then count me out.

Yeah, this has been tested every which way by now, the entire point of in-person work is to monitor employees. My manager told me outright that the only reason I can stay remote is, unlike most of the team, I didn't seem to "disappear" during 2020.
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