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OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
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Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#922Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, but then again, I totally expected this opening the comment threads. Same happened with RMS debacle, same happened with similar events earlier, same happened on many a Musk stories. It seems that a neat narrative with clear person/object to hate, once established, is extremely resilient to facts that disprove it.
I'm not sure what RMS has to do with Altman. I'm also not sure why you think people just want to hate on Musk when it took a decade of his blatant lies for most people to catch on to the fact that he's a conman (remember, everyone loved him and Tesla for the first 5 or 10 years of lies). But the comparison between Musk and Altman is pretty apt, good job there.
Well not sure what you mean by 'Conman'. Wildly successful people do aim high a lot, a lot. They don't meet 80% of their goals, that is perfectly ok. Even as low as 20% success on a lot of these moonshot things sets you ahead of the masses who aim very low and get there 100% of the times.
This whole idea that some one has to comply to your idea of how one must set goals, and get there is something other people have no obligations to measure up to. Also that's the deal about his lies? He can say whatever he wants, and not get there. He is not exactly holding an oath to you or any one that he is at an error for not measuring up.
Musk might not get to Mars, he might end up mining asteroids or something. That is ok. That doesn't make him a conman.
tl;dr. Any one can say, work and fail at anything they want. And they don't owe anybody an explanation for a darn thing.
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#923Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lol what a joke. The famous person "owns" the sound of their voice, and the non-famous person does not. Get wrecked peasants.
Imagine being sued by a celebrity for looking or sounding like them. Should've not chosen to born with a similar voice.
This whole thing is so bizarre.
A lot of people look handsome, sound handsome and are even stylish. So some rich person can randomly claim some one looks closer or sounds closer to them and hence needs to forced to wear a mask to prevented from even talking?
So what happens next, when AI bots begin to sing, compose music, teach, paint or anything for that matter?
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#924Earlier quoted context omitted.
Genuine question, what's wrong with trying to replicate in real life an idea from a SciFi movie ? I understand that it could be problematic if OpenAI did one of two things: - imitated Scarlett Johansson's voice to impersonate her - misled people into believing that GPT-4o is an official by-product of the film Her, like calling it “the official Her AI” The first point is still unclear, and that's precisely the point o…
Imagine if Facebook came to you and wanted an exclusive license to white label whatever you work on, then after you rejected them they went and copied most of your code but changed the hue or saturation of some of the colors and shipped it to all of their customers (There's definitely hours of Scarlet Johanssons talking in the dataset that GPT4o was trained on). Would that be ethical? EDIT: or even better, imagine ho…
Facebook does do this, and Google, and Microsoft, and Apple. I believe they call it "Getting Sherlocked."
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#925Why would they want a seductive sexy voice like SJ anyway. That’s just distracting and not conducive to the AI product being helpful or increasing productivity.
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#926Props for Scarlett for turning down what was likely a big chunk of change. I can see how being the official voice of AI could turn out to be counter productive for her in the longer run
This is bigger than Will Smith turning the role of Neo for the Matrix movie.
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#927Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm losing faith in Hacker News commenters too. Such an incredible display of lack of critical thinking ("oh, he tweeted Her? Must be because he's trolling ScarJo, not because the movie is literally like the real life product") and bandwagoning over this piece of news, all because HN wants to hate OpenAI. Not to mention, on the AI Paint thread, there was this heavily upvoted guy saying its servers are paid for by the…
For what it's worth, sometimes I get very frustrated with HN, but I think the reason I keep coming back is because it provides me with a lot of context. Eg, I pick up a lot of information about techniques people have applied to certain problems, which I recall when I recognize a similar problem, and that gives me a place to start. But I have had to cut myself off from a given community because my relationship became…
Thank you.
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#928Earlier quoted context omitted.
Clearly an SJ voice was the goal, given that Altman asked her to do it, asked her a second time just two days before the ChatGPT-4o release, and then tweeted "her" on the release day. The next day Karpathy, recently ex-OpenAI, then tweets "The killer app of LLMs is Scarlett Johansson". Altman appears to be an habitual liar. Note his recent claim not to be aware of the non-disparagement and claw-back terms he had depa…
They hired the actor that did the voice months before they contacted SJ . The reaction on this site to the news that this story was false is kind of mindbending.
Your immediate acceptance that a timeline that represents the best spin of a deep-pocketed company in full crisis PR mode proves the story "false", full stop, no caveats is... I wouldn't say mind-bending, but quite credulous at a minimum. The timeline they present could be accurate but the full picture could still be quite damning. As Casey Newton wrote today [1]:
> Of course, this explanation only goes so far. We don’t know whether anyone involved in choosing Sky’s voice noted the similarity to Johansson’s, for example. And given how close the two voices sound to most ears, it might have seemed strange for the company to offer both the Sky voice and the Johansson voice, should the latter actor have chosen to participate in the project. [...] And I still don’t understand why Altman reportedly reached out to Johansson just two days before the demonstration to ask her to reconsider.
They absolutely have not earned the benefit of the doubt. Just look at their reaction to the NDA / equity clawback fiasco [2], and their focus on lifelong non-disparagement clauses. There's a lot of smoke there...
[1] https://www.platformer.news/openai-scarlett-johansson-chatgp...
[2] https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/351132/openai-vested-equi...
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#929As someone who watched the 4o demo, enjoys MCU works, and saw Her, but wasn't even aware of the connection between Black Widow and Samantha (no idea who SJ was until this whole thing), a lot of the comments on this post are absolutely ridiculous.
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#930Earlier quoted context omitted.
Scarlett Johansson is apparently so devious she managed to get OpenAI to reach out to her to license her voice and likeness. She even set up the CEO by having him directly negotiate with her, which I’m sure he also did with the alleged small voice actor. Then she perfected her scheme by having that same CEO publicly tweet “her” - timed with the release of the voice product - referencing JS’s movie of the same name wh…
Is it illegal to hire a voice actor that sounds like Darth Vader? No. Is it illegal to hire a voice actor that sounds like Her? No. Would it be appealing to have SJ voice act for them? Sure. Does that mean it's illegal for another voice actor to (according to some) sound similar to a character from a poplar movie? No. All of these things can be true together
Illegal?
It probably isn’t criminal, which is what you seem to be asking, although it very well might be depending on the facts.
More importantly, under the available facts JA likely has a claim for civil damages under one of more causes of action. Her claims are so strong this will likely end up with a confidential settlement in an undisclosed sum without even needing to file a lawsuit. If she does file a lawsuit, there is still greater than 90% likelihood OpenAI settles before trial. In that less than 3% chance the case proceeds to a verdict, then you’ll have your answer without having to make bad arguments on HN.