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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by bayindirh »

chfalck wrote: post #841
crazygringo wrote: post #761

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not surprised -- I thought Bard was terrible branding. It's all associations with Shakespeare and poetry and medieval England, and as much as I might personally enjoy those, it's extremely backwards-looking, with archaic connotations. Also it sounds close to "beard" -- hairy stuff. Gemini sounds like the space program -- futuristic, a leap for mankind. It's got all the right emotional associations. It's a constel…

Interesting. I don’t like the name at all because it makes me think of people who take horoscopes seriously. You’re impression seems to be untainted by that which is nice

When I think of Gemini, I think of a digital twin, something which can work with what I have on Google, think like me, or do the things the way I do.

Bard was nice, too, but it was like another thing, separated from me. Gemini sounds more cooperative.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by smcl »

gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

To me Gemini is just sort of generic and uninteresting. There has to be hundreds or thousands of products and companies based on the name "Gemini" - "Bard" was at least interesting, different and distinct.

I've no idea about the quality of the product itself, I have never had a reason to use it. It's long past cliché now but I wouldn't get too attached to a Google product that is definitely costing a lot of money but which has no clear pathway to turning a profit. I think they will keep it ticking over until the hype train moves on from Chatbots/LLMs, and then it'll join the Google Graveyard @ https://killedbygoogle.com

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by illiac786 »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #619
zooq_ai wrote: post #327

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Also as time goes by, it'll get smoothly integrated into docs/gmail/maps/calendar/youtube/search/colab/sheets/android/assistant So Gemini could by your one-stop AI shop for everything. Only Microsoft can match it (but Microsoft doesn't have a popular maps, youtube, mail, smartphone OS service). Apple is another strong player (but they don't have productivity tools like docs, sheets or youtube). It really is Google's…

Google is going to own AI like intel owns graphics cards - i.e. Not really, except at the absolute bottom of the barrel where its baked in advantage lets it offer an unbeatable price/performance proposition for people who only care about "value" and with limited real performance requirements. Google's baked in AIs will be free, and bad. Everyone else is going to let people "plug in" models via standardized APIs, beca…

But power users are a minuscule market, compared to non-power (weak?) users. That's the problem.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

jameshart wrote: post #845
josephjrobison wrote: post #844

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The alliteration beauty of Google Gemini cannot be denied.

Only if you pronounce it with a hard G, like in GIF. Or have I been mispronouncing ‘Google’ all this time?

jif?

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Post by kolinko »

ASinclair wrote: post #502
jonplackett wrote: post #427

I’ve been pretty excited to finally try Gemini advanced. So far pretty disappointed. Here’s my go-to test question - which even chat gpt 3.5 can get. Question: I walk up to a glass door. It has the word push on it in mirror writing. Should I push or pull the door, and why Gemini advanced: You should push the door. Here's why: * Mirror Writing: The word "PUSH" is written in mirror writing, meaning it would appear corr…

How do you prefer to validate if a model is actually useful for you in practice outside of solving toy problems? Are you asking these models to solve reasoning problems like this to get any benefit for yourself in your day to day use? Or do you even care if the models are useful for day to day tasks?

It’s the simplest metric to see how much of the model is reasoning and hiw much is just rehashing.

If it can’t solve puzzles then it’s more likely to make mistakes when understanding questions that are out of its training set.

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Post by htrp »

sirspacey wrote: post #905

This is wild to admit but we are directly betting that Google will fail to effectively incorporate Gemini across GSuite for Work. I think it is (very) fair to say this is a risky bet. I would love to hear from the HN community why we are wrong to take it. Here’s the case we see: 1. Google has a long history of seeking to evolve the GSuite and failing. There are notable exceptions, but the failures are far more notabl…

> Microsoft, in relative terms, is executing on all of the above and has been for a while.

They are and copilot for office still is atrocious. However, they are learning and developing what should be the new interfaces for AI enabled productivity.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by hhsectech »

chfalck wrote: post #841
crazygringo wrote: post #761

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not surprised -- I thought Bard was terrible branding. It's all associations with Shakespeare and poetry and medieval England, and as much as I might personally enjoy those, it's extremely backwards-looking, with archaic connotations. Also it sounds close to "beard" -- hairy stuff. Gemini sounds like the space program -- futuristic, a leap for mankind. It's got all the right emotional associations. It's a constel…

Interesting. I don’t like the name at all because it makes me think of people who take horoscopes seriously. You’re impression seems to be untainted by that which is nice

Ugh...such an Aquarian thing to say. /s
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