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I think what Apple is pushing for is computing efficiency. It still gets faster but with much less power. Focusing on performance solely would be the wrong way to evaluate these chips. https://www.tomsguide.com/news/apple-m3-chip
This drives me crazy. Apple plays the market like Nintendo. Pick something that no one cares about, do it better than anyone else, and make a big deal about it. I dream of a world where instead of a marketing company becoming a top 3 tech company, a tech company would have. Wonder what they would have done for their laptop... Or maybe this is just an inevitable outcome of capitalism/human biology where a veblen goods…
Who knows... maybe they will be like Google (which I consider a tech/engineering driven org) and they'll throw away (good) products all the time just "because"?
I think Apple plays the "niche" very well, not only regarding marketing, but also from a techs view.
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#924Finally, meaningful amount of RAM in lowest option (which is the only one most shops usually have in stock) for the Pro - 36Gb.
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#925Wonder by M10 if we have ChatGPT like AI built-into the chip.
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#926I love Apple but they wasted a 30 minute midnight event in the UK to announce new Mac chips and a new colour of Mac. I think this could’ve been a press release and tech reviews hands on. I don’t think they’ll do this again but it wasn’t that good. Yeah filming was obv. But the event purpose I don’t think made sense for 30 minutes when it could’ve been a press release and tech reviewed hands on.
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Sure, that's the title, but at least in this PR they immediately show a graph with a comparison to both. Presumably it makes more marketing sense to compare to the M1 family up front because most people that bought an M2 last year are probably not going to be upgrading to M3. They are speaking to the people most likely to upgrade.
fwiw, i cant remember the last time i saw a company go back more than a generation in their own comparison. Apple is saying here as much as they're not saying here. M2->M3 may not be a compelling upgrade story.
Is it a problem, though? The vast majority of people skip generation and for them the relevant reference point is what they have, which is going to be hardware from a couple of generations ago. M2 -> M3 does not have to be compelling: the people with M3 devices are a tiny fraction of the market anyway.
I find it interesting how people respond to this. On one side, it’s marketing so it should be taken critically. OTOH, if they stress the improvements over the last generation, people say they create artificial demand and things about sheeple; if they compare to generations before people say that it’s deceptive and that they lost their edge. It seems that some vocal people are going to complain regardless.
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#928I feel very disappointed that the laptops lack decent i/o. They spend all this time talking about how advanced the GPU is, but it's a $1,600 laptop that can only power one external display or a 2,000 laptop that can only power two displays? Plus they are nerfing the desktops by only offering the all-in-ones with m2, so you can walk into a store and want to buy any other desktop now you are paying a huge premium for o…
The single external display driver can drive more than one display at resolutions at 4k or lower. You can daisychain two 4k monitors on a Mac that has only one external display driver when you use the Displaylink adapter (it’s a driver). It somehow internally reuses the same display output for both displays.
The USB-C can power one 6k or 2 4k monitors.
The HDMI port on M2 Pro and newer can power one 8k.
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#929Earlier quoted context omitted.
They've been doing more multiples of 6/12 lately, I supposed it's related to the available chip sizes for the LPDDR5X. M2 and M3 go up to 24GB M3 Pro is available in 18GB and 36GB M3 Max is available in 36GB, 48GB, 64GB, 96GB, and 128GB
Why do I need to select the most expensive M3 Max version (the one with 16 cores) to get 48 or 64 gigs of RAM. The M3 Max with 14 cores only allow 36 or 96 gigs. Just let me choose 14 cores and 64 gigs.
Just get the 96G option? It is only around 100$ more for 1.5x the memory. And 1.5x the memory is worth it when you are interested in high memory applications anyway.
What is your usecase, LLMs? Other AI models? Multiple large VMs? It’s always worth it to max the memory. In this case going from 64 to 96.
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#930Earlier quoted context omitted.
The presentation mentioned dynamic GPU caching: that seems like something transformer models would like.
In addition to what mono said, llama.cpp allocates everything up front with "--mlock" Llama.cpp (and MLC) have to read the all the model weights from RAM for every token. Batching aside, there's no way around that.
Mlock is an optional parameter:
github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp/tree/master/examples/main#mlock