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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by seanw444 »

naikrovek wrote: post #782
Dah00n wrote: post #602

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Amazon is not a good place to get prices from for a comparison. All the enshittification has ruined the prices. As it forces prices up outside Amazon too even outside prices are not useful. To do a proper comparison that doesn't include changes forced by Amazon IMO you need to look at non-US non-Amazon non-Amazon-sellers prices and work with those. Quite annoying really.

I've seen the word "enshittification" three times in three days now, and it is already rubbing my last nerve raw. we make fun of business jargon and buzzword fads, and we do it just as much as anyone else, and it sickens me.

It is a pretty stupid word, I agree. The replies are correct, English changes over time, but I still get to think it's stupid regardless.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by Narishma »

synergy20 wrote: post #590

I somehow feel RPi5 is getting out of my "small fanless SBC" comfort zone, for embedded projects and products, RPi4 is more than enough for my needs, though I like its RTC and power button.

You can just use the Pi 5 without a fan and it will still be faster and more energy efficient than a Pi 4.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by sixothree »

nfriedly wrote: post #803
sixothree wrote: post #799

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How cow! You can buy them?!

Not yet, but you can pre-order them from some vendors. The 4 and 8gb models should ship in October. FWIW, the Pi 4 and Pi Zero W are both fairly available these days. The Zero 2 W is still in short supply, but aside from that, the shortage is basically over.

BTW I jest, but thank you for the info.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by synergy20 »

Narishma wrote: post #923
synergy20 wrote: post #590

I somehow feel RPi5 is getting out of my "small fanless SBC" comfort zone, for embedded projects and products, RPi4 is more than enough for my needs, though I like its RTC and power button.

You can just use the Pi 5 without a fan and it will still be faster and more energy efficient than a Pi 4.

good point, wait for the pricing info, esp 1GB and 2GB.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by 4star3star »

jamesdhutton wrote: post #800

I am curious to know how people here use their RPIs today, and how the RPI5 might help. I have had a model 3 for many years, which I enjoy tinkering with from time to time. I still haven't gotten over the novelty of having such small, cheap computer that runs Linux and does a pretty good job of it. That said, all I do is tinker with it. I turn it on, write a bit of code, marvel that the code runs, and turn it off. I'…

Three years ago, my new home came with smart features such as a connected front door lock and thermostat and a wall panel with a sim connected to alarm.com. The intro period ran out, and I didn't want to pay anything ongoing, so I bought a z-wave usb controller and set up HomeAssistant on my old Pi2. With some effort to get everything working in docker with a cloudflare tunnel, I am back to being able to monitor and control my smart home from anywhere.

I'm not feeling compelled to get a more powerful pi. In fact, I'd be more inclined to buy the pi zero or several of them, but they were always impossible to find in stock when I was interested.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by bradfa »

aseipp wrote: post #639
bradfa wrote: post #470

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I didn't see any mention of UEFI in my first read through about the Pi 5. Did I just miss it? I would like to have a quiet and reasonably performant ARM aarch64 box at this price point, but only if it supports UEFI without needing to resort to silly EFI system partition tricks (which the Pi 4 required, last I knew).

The RPi4 has had a functional port of TianoCore for a while now, which is likely what they were referring to. You can use e.g. generic aarch64 UEFI Fedora images out of the box with it. https://github.com/pftf/RPi4

RasPi 4 requires some special files in the EFI system partition and a special non-stock EEPROM, at least for the older RasPi 4 boards, maybe the newer stock come with the UEFI-enabled EEPROM image? Regardless, in my experience with other EFI-enabled boards, I've never had to put the actual EFI into the EFI system partition, the EFI itself lives in a SPI flash usually so that you can boot "from" EFI with no "disks" attached.

Definitely the RasPi 4 having the ability to run UEFI, even in this way, is good. But what I'm looking for specifically is having UEFI just like every other UEFI-enabled PC and server does it, where I don't need a disk to boot to UEFI.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by bradfa »

fanf2 wrote: post #508
bradfa wrote: post #470

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I didn't see any mention of UEFI in my first read through about the Pi 5. Did I just miss it? I would like to have a quiet and reasonably performant ARM aarch64 box at this price point, but only if it supports UEFI without needing to resort to silly EFI system partition tricks (which the Pi 4 required, last I knew).

One of the differences in the Raspberry Pi 5 is the bootloader is in EEPROM. It has 2MiBytes which they doubt would be enough to fit a UEFI implementation. So it sounds to me like there isn’t much chance of UEFI this time.

2MiB could be enough space for an EFI implementation, but some features definitely would need to be disabled and it would definitely depend on how big the code for interfacing to the specific hardware on the board actually is. 4MiB is often big enough to have a functional EFI implementation, so 2MiB doesn't sound crazy to me, but I haven't tried.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by snvzz »

birracerveza wrote: post #300
pjerem wrote: post #107

I hope they’ll reiterate the computer in keyboard form factor (pi 400). My son is 6 and is learning to read and the pi 400 looks like a perfect first computer.

The Amiga 500, then 30 years later, the Raspberry 500. I'd buy one. Probably more.

Amiga 500? Yeah, I would too.

Currently got two A500 and one A500+, and feel like I could use more ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by gokhan »

Slartie wrote: post #884
jamesdhutton wrote: post #800

I am curious to know how people here use their RPIs today, and how the RPI5 might help. I have had a model 3 for many years, which I enjoy tinkering with from time to time. I still haven't gotten over the novelty of having such small, cheap computer that runs Linux and does a pretty good job of it. That said, all I do is tinker with it. I turn it on, write a bit of code, marvel that the code runs, and turn it off. I'…

One is monitoring my trash bins in the backyard and generating visual output of emptying times, current location of the bins, alerts if they are still in the backyard but are scheduled to be emptied tomorrow (in which case I need to move them to the street in the front). This has been running on a Pi with Bluetooth (monitoring uses BLE beacons) for over five years now, with very little maintenance necessary. Another…

Nice one. Trash Train is also interesting.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VhYEOG9LOIk

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