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Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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post #910

> San Francisco authorities hit back at Elon Musk and others who had used Lee’s killing to criticize law enforcement in the city. Tagline is kinda weird... isn't murder kinda indicative of a law enforcement failure?

No. Law enforcement's job is to arrest and punish murderers, not prevent murders.

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

#922

This is shocking and saddening, and should also be a lesson to this community: previous threads on this tragedy immediately jumped to blaming the homeless, when the overwhelming majority of violent crimes are committed by individuals known to the victim. Edit: Added "violent," to preempt diversions about non-violent crimes.

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Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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post #907

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn't mean San Francisco is exonerated from being a crime-laden city. It's an inconvenient truth but car break-ins, looting of retail shops, open air drug markets, unhygienic streets, and rampant homelessness are worse than ever.

Ah yes, being homeless. One of the greatest crimes

Right. Breaking into cars is a requirement of being homeless and done only by the homeless

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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post #921
post #910

> San Francisco authorities hit back at Elon Musk and others who had used Lee’s killing to criticize law enforcement in the city. Tagline is kinda weird... isn't murder kinda indicative of a law enforcement failure?

No. Law enforcement's job is to arrest and punish murderers, not prevent murders.

You can't possibly be serious, right? So what is the point of police patrol? Adjusting police presence in different areas? Community initiatives? Prevention is definitively a key component of modern policing at least in every city and country I have lived in.

If that isn't the case in SF I'd say then that they have obviously failed on all levels at enforcing the law. Not to mention, punishment is definitely not the job of law enforcement.

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

#925
post #907

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn't mean San Francisco is exonerated from being a crime-laden city. It's an inconvenient truth but car break-ins, looting of retail shops, open air drug markets, unhygienic streets, and rampant homelessness are worse than ever.

Ah yes, being homeless. One of the greatest crimes

No, it’s not a crime. But it deserves a spot on the list of “shitty things about SF.”

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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post #912

This is shocking and saddening, and should also be a lesson to this community: previous threads on this tragedy immediately jumped to blaming the homeless, when the overwhelming majority of violent crimes are committed by individuals known to the victim. Edit: Added "violent," to preempt diversions about non-violent crimes.

I'd say that the lesson learned needs to be broader than that. Any time Texas, California, Portland etc are mentioned the culture warriors of the left and right come out. The effect is a lot of lost trust for each other in this community when that happens. I do appreciate the people who posted on the other thread saying they were wrong about assuming a homeless person did it, but this won't be the last time culture w…

Certainly there are some culture warriors, who use these situations only as springboards to their pre-existing and unmovable opinions about those on the Other Side.

But it’s not all culture war. I like to think that in HN it’s all legitimate viewpoints.

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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post #919

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The suspect is indeed innocent until proven guilty. I haven't advanced any claim that this particular suspect is the perpetrator; only that violent crimes are overwhelmingly committed by people known to their victims. I hope that we can extend the same fundamental legal skepticism to society's most needy.

> violent crimes are overwhelmingly committed by people known to their victims. Homicide. Homicide is overwhelmingly committed by people known to their victims. Violent Crime includes armed robbery, aggravated assault, forcible rape and murder. Not all of these crimes share that statistic.

“Not all” is doing a lot of lifting: of the four you’ve listed, three are disproportionally committed by people known to their victim.

As a category, “violent crimes” are overwhelmingly intimate.

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

#928

This is shocking and saddening, and should also be a lesson to this community: previous threads on this tragedy immediately jumped to blaming the homeless, when the overwhelming majority of violent crimes are committed by individuals known to the victim. Edit: Added "violent," to preempt diversions about non-violent crimes.

Most people saying that probably didn't even live in California. Awful people

Wait. I can't have an opinion about places other than my immediate surrounding?

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

#929
post #879

Is it common for police to release so much personal information on a suspect? The linked article contains the full name, age, and city of residency.

Look at it this way: do you want police not disclosing who they arrest? Name, age, city is pretty common; especially name and age of someone arrested. I'd imagine it public records. Some quick googling for recent examples. I just looked for news articles, not sure what if the police release has more residency info on the ones that aren't listed in the articles. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-02-17/susp…

That and I am sure there is a PR aspect to it and putting local populace at ease.
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