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Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

wahern wrote: post #920
phatfish wrote: post #888

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Racism and xenaphobia of the native population has very little effect on migration if the reward for the migrants is enough. If a "developed" country wanted to stop migration they would work to raise the living standards at the source. There is less chance of that happening than removing xenaphobic behaviour from the natives however. Or the "developed" society becomes more brutal than the place the migrant are fleein…

> If a "developed" country wanted to stop migration they would work to raise the living standards at the source. Biden at least nominally adopted such as policy. See, for example, "U.S. Strategy for Addressing the Root Causes of Migration in Central America", https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Root-C... But, AFAICT, it's mostly been a quiet public-private approach that in dollar terms isn't very su…

> It's almost like a leftist ecological argument: the rest of the world is in a state of nature, and any intervention by an external agency is per se morally evil.

The USA will get flack if it meddles and if it doesn't meddle, they really shouldn't worry about world opinion at that point. More to the point, it is impossible for America to fix the rest of the world, even if that were the moral thing to do. Welcoming some immigrants from countries having problems is probably the best we can do.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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Post by goosedragons »

Clubber wrote: post #418
layer8 wrote: post #410

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“Way too low” isn’t really true. I have RDP and Firefox and Word and Excel open, and Windows still uses just around 4 GB of RAM according to Task Manager.

It depends on the version. In Vista, the one mentioned, they certainly were. It you ran a computer using the minimum specs, it was almost unusable. https://www.osnews.com/story/16675/vista-minimum-requirement...

The same could be said of Mac OS 10.4 at the same time. It was an absolute dog on systems without Quartz Extreme support.

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Post by pbronez »

Mindwipe wrote: post #870
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For gaming. I guess that matters to some people. Those people have never been Mac buyers so that is no change.

That's fundamentally not true. If someone is a hardcore gamer then they probably weren't buying Macs, but most customers do a bit of everything, and I would wager a very significant percentage of Mac users want to game a bit . But major gaming studios like Blizzard who have normally made Mac versions of their titles are abandoning the Mac now. Epic is banned. The great white (and always misguided) hope that iOS games…

Yeah I agree with this. I’ve used MacOS for a while and am intrigued by Apple Silicon. But for the prices they’re charging, I need it to do everything. I don’t game much, but I do want to game _some_.

I’m thinking about going back to Windows and learning into WSL where needed. If that gets annoying, I’ll go full Linux and put Windows in a VM.

I’m not excited at all about Window 11’s telemetry, advertising, and general infestations by Microsoft tendrils. Still, Windows 10 is pretty good from a productivity standpoint. I figure I should be able to configure things to keep annoyances under control.

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Post by midoridensha »

unethical_ban wrote: post #713
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Which is weird, because barely any part of it is produced in the US. So it's not that their costs are going up. They are just not realizing they are self sabotaging in terms of opportunity costs. If they adjust prices to purchasing power, with at least 30% profit marge, windows laptops and chromebooks would be having crisis talks right about now. People would prefer the Apple stuff, but not at that price. Even if you…

They probably don't want the grey market to flourish, where Indian MacBooks sell for $700 locally and get shipped to the US in an eBay transaction. Geo-locking a laptop in the modern world is impractical if not impossible and would have its own PR issues. There can't be a grey market if you charge the same price globally.

I think geo-locking is definitely a workable solution. Add a cheap GPS receiver and the machine can tell where it's located. Then if it's moved between countries, it can refuse to work until the user pays up. Since Apple controls the OS, they can bake this in: bring up a web browser page pointed to a payment form, linked to their Apple account.

I don't see why this wouldn't work. It's not like Apple users are going to rebel and refuse to buy Apple products because of something like this.

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Post by midoridensha »

izacus wrote: post #36

I was just buying a laptop for my family and the prices of MacBooks here in Europe are utterly crazy. The crappiest 8GB RAM (?!) 256SSD M2 Air model is 1650EUR. 1650EUR for a laptop that won't have enough ram to run the browser in two years. The 16GB model is rounded 2000EUR, which was before reserved for a high-end gaming laptops. It's bonkers.

>The crappiest 8GB RAM (?!) 256SSD M2 Air model is 1650EUR. 1650EUR for a laptop that won't have enough ram to run the browser in two years.

With the way some of us use tabs, that's not enough RAM to run the browser now. :-)

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Post by carlosjobim »

ajross wrote: post #437
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Salaries are only redistribution of current money supply. Inflation means an increased money supply and only banks can increase it, wether it's government banks, private banks, or both.

It's a feedback cycle, arguments about which node in the graph is the "real" one are pointless. My point was just empirical: almost always, the proximate cause of "inflation" is increased consumer spending, and the proximate cause of that is usually salary growth. And it was this time too. So an argument of the form "salaries don't keep up with inflation" is backwards (usually). They already did!

It's not a feedback cycle. Inflation is the increase in money existing. Paying higher salaries do not increase the amount of money existing, as that money is taken from somewhere. Raising prices do not increase the amount of money existing. Only the money creators can increase the amount of money existing. Money is created by banks and governments in symbiosis.

Increased prices of labour or products is always a consequence of inflation and never the cause of inflation.

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Post by carlosjobim »

dboreham wrote: post #471
carlosjobim wrote: post #413

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Salaries are only redistribution of current money supply. Inflation means an increased money supply and only banks can increase it, wether it's government banks, private banks, or both.

Probably because my mother was an economist, I've pretty much ignored the subject my entire life. However, your post piqued my curiosity. Some reading later, and I'm scratching my head: are economists really that dumb? The price of some goods must go down if the price of other goods goes up? Only in some simulation of an economy that doesn't include real humans, right?

> are economists really that dumb?

No, the are really smart. You have to be very intelligent to be able to contrive a way to support an idea that is completely wrong. Intelligent people almost always support the most idiotic political, economical or cultural ideas, because that is a mental challenge that is satisfying. Using the sheer force of their intellect to "beat" normally gifted people in arguments about these issues, they delude themselves to believe they are right, even though they picked an absurd angle just for the challenge.

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Post by TrapLord_Rhodo »

flerovium wrote: post #904
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>No, it doesn't. It's about 1.8 and dropping The OECD average is 1.67. America has a relative advantage Here's a dataset of various countries' fertility rates: https://splash-db.eu/dataset/population-indicators/

Yes, but much of the difference in the average is due to recent immigrants.

That's literally the point he made above... America has always been a nation of immigrants. This is a good thing, not something to be singled out and act like it's a negative.

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Post by sleepybrett »

jwandborg wrote: post #618
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I also had a 2016 with a bad keyboard, they replaced it for free because it was a well known terrible keyboard and it probably didn't hurt that it was still under applecare. I continued to use that laptop into 2019, it did need a battery replacement (it got puffy, it happens) that I paid for out of pocket. Then I gave that laptop to a friend and she used it until she finally thought it was too slow/big (it was a 15")…

> Apple has great support. Apple does not have support good enough for professionals, my colleagues are suffering with defective MacBooks until they can justify a full replacement, because Apple repairs cost a lot of time, while Lenovo sends a repairperson with tools and replacement parts to my office.

I had a keyboard swap done (topcase) in 2 hours in the store. When I've had repairs go to the depot i've had it back in two days.
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