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Re: Dear Chess World

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That was a joke reddit post.

correction: twitch comment

I believe this is the source reddit comment, though it was riffed all over twitch and Twitter afterwards: https://www.reddit.com/r/chessmemes/comments/x8217h/the_real...

Here's a link to the original comment, since removed: https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/x77n0h/comment/inazu...

Re: Dear Chess World

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post #699

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> the opinion of the famous player This is a hilariously inaccurate description of magnus. He is widely regarded as the greatest chess player to have ever lived. His opinion on what it takes to play high level chess is worth taking extremely seriously. It's not like he has a history of temper tantrums or petulant behavior; he's an upstanding custodian of the mantle of world champion.

Not only is that a logical fallacy (appeal to authority) but magnus lost to him and is claiming cheating which is clearly a huge conflict of interest. His opinion should be heavily scrutinized.

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Re: Dear Chess World

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This is a farce. All credibility has been lost when you have to scan players like you scan people when entering a plane. Chess is touted as an ingenious game when it is little more than a brute-force search with simple prune and huge amounts of memorization. I would argue that most GMs would easily play up to 200-300 elo points below their current level with little to no practice. But they spend decades of their live…

I have no idea about the main topic of this discussion.

But I did lose all interest in chess years ago when I realized the same thing: at the top level it's not about thinking but about memorizing (at the least) openings.

I believe go is too complex for the human mind to memorize strategies? Human mind, not computer.

Re: Dear Chess World

#924

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He's trying to own up to his mistakes.

Perhaps, but that’s the first step to forgiveness and trust, not the last.

I agree. But he should be given his chance to make the second step - which seems to be to continue to play without cheating.

Re: Dear Chess World

#925

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It is zero evidence that Hans has ever cheated OTB, yeah.

Past criminal behavior is routinely admitted as evidence in court. It's not proof, but it is evidence. You're refusing to see this, by the way. You're capable of understanding what I said without me saying it.

This isn't a court, and it isn't criminal behavior. If it was a court and it was criminal behavior, we'd expect innocent until proven guilty and the benefit of the doubt. Which no one is giving Hans.

Re: Dear Chess World

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post #269

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It's not extremely rare. Stop pulling things out of your butt. THE FIRST GAME Hikaru opened when he tried to check his games was 100%. He opened a random fucking game!

If someone wins the powerball the first time they buy a ticket it’s still a rare event.

yeah - if I pulled a random willing powerball ticket out of my massive pile of powerball tickets, that would be a really, really rare event. It would make me believe that it isn't such a rare thing, for sure.

Re: Dear Chess World

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post #502

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Yes, and so does.... everyone else that is 2600+. And lots of people who aren't.

That's simply a lie.

It isn't a lie. Every person over 2600 will have games that 100% correlate with the engine using these methods.

I have games, as a 1400-1600 that are perfect games.

Re: Dear Chess World

#928

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It's been talked to death. The consensus is you cannot just cherry-pick some games and claim he's cheating. Everyone has games that are perfect. Everyone. Not just GMs or Super GMs. I have at least a few perfect games and I'm half the rating Hans is. The games analyzed also have crazy blunders by his opponents.

Perfect when compared to the moves the top chess engines would make? Hikaru says he only scored 100% one time, and 70% is more typical for a GM, yet everyone does it?

First, it isn't THE top moves. It is ONE of the top moves. Huge difference.

Where does Hikaru say he only has a 100% correlation game one time? I've seen lots of examples of other players having such games.

Re: Dear Chess World

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Some interesting meta observations for the few people who read my comment in this already enormous thread. I noticed that opinions on the issue seemed split rather 50/50 until I started seeing the same couple of names over and over on the "no evidence of cheating" side. And in fact, searching the HTML document for this page for a particularly prolific name yields that they make up about 10% of all posts in the thread…

I am into chess, was studying it, have read few books on chess. People who know near zero about chess seem to come out of woodwork to defend underdog who is attacked by the top level clique. Its understandable, but to me its akin to the flat earth arguments. All based on emotions, never have much to say about chess. Anyone who knows a bit about chess (lets say advanced level), would point to the post game interview o…

Agreed. Not only the firouzja interview but also the post game interview after the magnus match. It struck me as someone cheating on a test and being unable to show their work after the fact. Alejandro was pushing back against his analysis even before the cheating allegations came out. And his apology interview was full of inconsistencies where he couldn’t keep his story straight. This video does a body language analysis of the apology. While I don’t think you can put too much stock into the defensive postures, his behavior and his story is suspect at best https://youtu.be/OK9ZkoSQNFs

Re: Dear Chess World

#930
post #161

they should play a game inside one of these: https://www.ets-lindgren.com/products/shielding/rf-shielded-...

It wouldn't do much good since Stockfish could easily run on a raspberry pi or similar inside of that, say, in a player's shoe

Some comfortable clothing could be provided by the tournament organizers, making a lot of cheating strategies impossible.
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