Not working with fascists (yes, really) makes me much happier about cloudflare. They have their problems but they're not totally amoral.
Where are the fascist here again?
Blocking Kiwifarms
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Ok.. But where are the nazis again? This is about DDoS protection and a site that certain people don't like having it.
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#923Earlier quoted context omitted.
Watching company employees consistently pop up on critical threads (not fingering CF here, many including at least Stripe come to mind as frequently occurring too) feels a lot like gaming the forum. Vetted messages like this from a recognizable source will often end up pinned to the top of the thread, but I don't really think they overly contribute to the conversation in most cases, and I find myself wishing there wa…
I have to disagree with this. These folks are best positioned to give us actual information . 90% of the rest is just opining.
At the same time these folks have all the incentives to provide false information instead.
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#924The people who pushed for this have a list of the next sites they are going to get taken down. In particular any place TERFs have discussions. I give it 2 years and they will be successful.
>The people who pushed for this have a list of the next sites they are going to get taken down. In particular any place TERFs have discussions.
At this point, expect everything that doesn't agree with their ideology to be taken down or thwarted through their theatrical pressure campaigns on the blue bird app.
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#925Not working with fascists (yes, really) makes me much happier about cloudflare. They have their problems but they're not totally amoral.
>Not working with fascists (yes, really) makes me much happier about cloudflare.
This is beyond comical.
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#926Never heard of kiwifarms before but after having a quick read on it, I don't see any reasons why any provider of any sorts would deal with them. Not sure how screwed up in their heads people need to be to engage in this kind of shit.
Unfortunately internet discourse in the last 10 years has tended to descend into echo chambers. If you’ve managed to avoid interactions with the content being posted there and in other spaces like it, you have done quite well. Worse than that, the mentality pushed forth in echo chambers like this seems to crystallise peoples thoughts, to the point that alternative thoughts to the zeitgeist therein these spaces are no…
I hear people say this a lot these days, usually someone pushing some fringe cause from the left side of the divide. How has the center and right moved further to the right? I mean what issues have they moved on?
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#927Never heard of kiwifarms before but after having a quick read on it, I don't see any reasons why any provider of any sorts would deal with them. Not sure how screwed up in their heads people need to be to engage in this kind of shit.
Even if you have no moral or ethical qualms with them (unlikely as that is), it seems like a legal liability issue in general.
How so? Illegal activity and even interacting with people off site is against the rules. They have and do work with police when someone says/does something illegal. This whole issue is and always has been about the things certain people don't like knowing the site allows to be said and nothing more.. please keep up.
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#928The admin of kiwifarms has posted the following in response: >I am so full of hate for this situation. I try to write down my thoughts and I find myself unable to focus on one thing I hate the most. The person committing crimes to frame my community, or the sex pest who groom little boys, or the journalists who outright lie, or the corporate cowardice responsibility for the fragile state of the Internet. >It is all s…
Says the man who told the NZ police that their country is a shit hole because they asked him for details about the Christchurch terrorist, and he confirmed the he reposted the video and the "manifesto" of the terrorist. https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceania/owner-of-christchurch-s...
Nope, they asked him to give all information about everyone who posted about the attack (after the fact) viewed the video or read the manifesto. This was right about the time that their government was tracking down people in the country who merely viewed the video and arresting them. (remember that people spent months and years in prison for just viewing the video)
The media, with the same disregard for the facts as they have now and here when talking about the site, simply made up their own narrative as they went along. Some reported the truth, others made it look ambiguous and other intentionally reported it to sound like the information was related to the killer, or even to sound like the killer was a member of the site. When in fact he was not, nor was the site ever even mentioned by him.
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#929Technical question: Cloudflare says they are currently intercepting requests for Kiwifarms and redirecting them to the linked blog post. What does Kiwifarms need to do to remove their dependency on Cloudflare and make their forum visible again [edit: at the original address]? Can they do it unilaterally by changing an DNS address and waiting for it to propagate? Or do they need Cloudflare's cooperation?
When you set up a Cloudflare account, you tell your domain provider (Namecheap, Godaddy, Google etc.) that you want Cloudflare to have complete control over your domain by setting the domain's nameservers to Cloudflare's. If you want to get off of Cloudflare, you just go to your domain registrar and set your nameservers to some other DNS host, whether it be DDOS-Guard (which is what kiwifarms did with their .ru domai…
There's an interesting post from last year by Moon explaining his choice to use Cloudflare for DNS: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-10-28/where-sidewalk-end.... quasar posted it on HN, but it's not getting much traction, presumably because it's hosted on ZeroHedge: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32711917.
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#930Quoted post unavailable.
Kiwi farms has lead to the deaths of multiple people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms#Suicides_of_harassm...
Once again, these are all social media claims by people who, in many cases, weren't even connected to the dead person. And in most of the cases KF wasn't even mentioned by the victim at all. In fact one of them explicitly lists the mental health system and the fact that they were just made homeless as their reasons.. That didn't stop social media "allies" from ignoring their final comments and using their deaths to attack KFs.