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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by alex-ant »

rangoon626 wrote: post #904
beezischillin wrote: post #883

This is part of a wider trend in the corporate internet of getting rid of visible user interaction to stop publicising user opinion. News publications have slowly gotten rid of comments sections, Google itself (an entity quite close to the USG) is following suit. Of course I suspect that the idea here is less about creator choice, since they can already hide and filter user interaction to their hearts content and mor…

They are only really doing this to hide political dissent against the current administration and provide some cover. Both the president and vp are polling at historic low approval ratings right now.

Exactly

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by maest »

gremloni wrote: post #595
nickjj wrote: post #67

Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great. I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the vid…

The problem is people also use it as a propaganda tool to bury videos they don’t politically agree with. Normies have much lowered like/dislike button engagement so it’s a disservice to the vast majority.

What is a "normie"? Sounds like a vaguely inflammatory/derogatory term, but not 100% clear on what you mean by it.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by Tucanix »

This is a terrible decision. It also feels very undemocratic and a way to undermine trust and hide public opinion on a topic. Like a company made a screw up, before it was easy to see public opinion on the matter, but this just allows companies to hide everything, it feels like this decision was only made for companies and people with a controversial opinion like the feminist movement or a racist right wing movement.

I mean read the text "dislike attacks", this reads deeply like some disgruntled femminist who's community keeps getting dislikes because they have extremely controversial opinions. The femminist/SJW community really dislikes democracy and want more censorship it's no joke they are called "Feminazis".

I deeply dislike this decision and I feel like there is some hidden money or power or intent behind this decision to undermine democracy, this is deeply concerning.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by lelanthran »

rangoon626 wrote: post #904
beezischillin wrote: post #883

This is part of a wider trend in the corporate internet of getting rid of visible user interaction to stop publicising user opinion. News publications have slowly gotten rid of comments sections, Google itself (an entity quite close to the USG) is following suit. Of course I suspect that the idea here is less about creator choice, since they can already hide and filter user interaction to their hearts content and mor…

They are only really doing this to hide political dissent against the current administration and provide some cover. Both the president and vp are polling at historic low approval ratings right now.

> They are only really doing this to hide political dissent against the current administration and provide some cover. Both the president and vp are polling at historic low approval ratings right now.

I disagree that this is the only reason; there are other reasons that make sense as well - for example, every political movement benefits from making their movement appear larger and more inclusive than it really is.

It's easier to stifle dissent by saying "If you don't agree with us you're in the minority" and then hide the actual headcount of your movement.

It's all very 1984-esque, TBH. You cannot form an opposition if you think you're the only one who opposes.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by cyberpsybin »

ddingus wrote: post #790

Also, coming soon: User comment: DISLIKE Other users click like button on comment a ton of times... Next official move? Making comments visible to subscribers and premium users only... Google is going against basic human nature here and it's Orwellian as fuck. Next unofficial move? Censor comments containing, "DISLIKE" because the ones doing it will stand right out same as they did before and having them not stand ou…

How is it a "trend"? Facebook never had dislike. So does instagram. Even Twitter never had a downvote as far I can remember. Issue is that Google is removing it after entire YouTube culture was built around it.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by lucideer »

This seems like an odd thing to target. I haven't found dislikes to be problematic in the context of YouTube videos: in fact they're usually an indicator of something in the content itself (I've only ever seen high dislikes either on videos that were themselves problematic or harmful, or on unpopular corporate announcements).

For "creators" on YouTube the real problems seem to come from the contents of comments.

This[0] recent video rant has some interesting insights toward the end of the video where other popular YouTubers are interviewed on how negative comments impacted them. What I found thought provoking was how much of a negative impact some particular types of comments that seemed in good intent-e.g. commenters stating their preference for a previous video format "I preferred when you ___". Feels like Google/social media sites could do something around sentiment heuristics; I know Twitter has started some stuff like this.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVCpKfedfok

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