Site author here, I guess this is why the New York Times API keeps hitting rate limits.
Interesting project. WOndering if you could write a blog about building that site.
Is that ship still stuck?
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Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#922It will be weeks before this ship is free. Fuel and oil can be pumped out but that only makes up a fraction of the total weight of the vessel. Containers can be unloaded but again the lightest will be at the top so a significant number will need to be removed to make a big enough difference. And unloading them will be a slow process. You can maybe unload a few per hour with helicopters. There doesn't exist any infras…
Why not roll the containers off the ship - like a stone block of a pyramid? "All you need" is a ramp (or a hole in the side).
Some of the containers are upwards of 10t in weight. It's a good idea, but it's not feasible because of how slowly a ramp structure capable of holding that much could be deployed.
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#923Earlier quoted context omitted.
For moving containers off the best bet would probably be heavy lift choppers, the ship is large enough you could have several working on it at once and then just drop them off nearby to be loaded onto barges or something. A huge undertaking but it any weight taken off the Evergreen is less digging they have to do and the time is so expensive. Also it's less middle of nowhere there's a pretty large airbase nearby it l…
"For moving containers off the best bet would probably be heavy lift choppers, the ship is large enough you could have several working on it at once a" I thought about this. I don't think a chopper can lift the container. Depending on the size of the containers, even the biggest chopper might not be enough https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-mi-26-helicopter-llft... Get the ship moving again, I think if you pull t…
There's the crane lifting a crane lifting a crane method. [0]
Though I suspect another problem would be getting another ship large enough for all those cranes and strong enough to support all the weight close enough to the ship without them damaging each other by knocking into each other from waves and weight movement.
I also forgot about the matter of transporting those giant cranes onto the site. That itself would probably take weeks.
[0]https://www.constructionjunkie.com/blog/2015/8/9/watch-a-con...
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#924They're missing the attribution to OpenStreetMap.
It seems to me that this is more a problem of the embed from vesselfinder.com.
I just noted this here: https://github.com/grischard/osm-lacking-attribution/issues/...
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#925I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…
> Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. One thing many people are missing is the Suez Canal is not concrete, it’s sand, so the canal “walls” are not vertical they’re a relatively gentle 3:1 slope (4:1 in wider areas). Meaning only the center half of the cana…
There are locks on either end of the canal. I wonder if the water level can be raised a little to help?
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#926I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…
If it is any indication, other ships are turning around and betting on the two weeks journey around Africa.
Imagine if one of those also gets stuck while turning around.
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#927This photo gives some perspective
https://globalnews.ca/news/7719176/suez-canal-ship-digger-ex...
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#928Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not just CUT IT APART and clean up the mess after? Like this: https://jalopnik.com/a-chain-just-cut-through-a-capsized-car...
Because that would take months; they'd have to unload it, pump out the oil and fuel, get a disassembly crew and a ton of gear and all the infrastructure around it, etc.
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#929Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not just CUT IT APART and clean up the mess after? Like this: https://jalopnik.com/a-chain-just-cut-through-a-capsized-car...
Because that would take months; they'd have to unload it, pump out the oil and fuel, get a disassembly crew and a ton of gear and all the infrastructure around it, etc.
Then why not just BLOW IT UP?
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#930Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it totally implausible that ordinary intelligent people might have some ideas better than "put some tug boats on one end, and a single backhoe on the other end"? Because that's what your expensive experts have come up with so far. For my brilliant idea: Announce that everything on the ship is free, including the ship itself, and watch all the ragamuffins of Egypt strip it to nothing in a day.
Ah yes, the solution isn't to consult experts, but to step back and expect racist stereotypes to solve the problem! Brilliant!
I can understand your reaction, but the commenter might not have been thinking about racism that way. It's not crazy to think that poor people near a waterway might know a thing or two about strip salvaging. It was just phrased poorly, I think.