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Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

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Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

#922
The switch doesn't have to happen overnight, for all contacts and groups. And you can just run them next to each other.

People have just switched messengers in the past fine; ICQ -> MSN -> google chat / fb messenger (and I probably forgot a few). I agree that Whatsapp has become more "critical infrastructure" than messengers were, but don't give up right away because it seems impossible

Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

#923
post #641

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Let’s not forget that Telegram backdoored their encrypted chat implementation and got caught.

Link.

They didn't backdoor it. It was back in 2013 when they were new. Everyone was going "whoa, your encryption is weird" and they were defending themselves by saying "we have 6 world champion programmers".

Anyways, something like 6 months after launch a Russian guy found that they were seeding their secret chat keys with entropy from the server, meaning the server could trivially MITM any secret chat. Pretty embarrassing.

Iirc it got quite little publicity since most of the discussion was in Russian, and the disclosure was in a forum post in an obscure forum.

Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

#924
Sorry, too much "privacy" with Signal! I want to have continuous history of my conversations, but Signal does not allow for it. Also, it's the worst SMS client and, in fact, I've lost text messages due to its "privacy", which I didn't ask for.

Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

#926
I was looking at signal and telegram. Telegram was easier for family crowd and it has all necessary features for easy transition. Literally over a day I persuaded successfully all my active groups to move over to telegram. It was that simple.

Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

#927
post #175

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/Aside First time I'm meeting my virtual Doppelganger, best part is, it's on HN !

My mother's family name is "Lazare". it's pretty common isn't it?

Humm, not where I come from (France). And it's actually my first name !

Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

#929

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That page starts by claiming that Signal doesn't do backups which is false.

Signal's backup is different than what Telegram provides, based on what I read on their webiste: https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007059752-Ba... On Telegram, login on a new device and you can see your all messages automatically. On Signal, you seems to need to perform it manually, and your history will lost forever if you phone are lost or broken. I think the first kind of "backup" is what most people…

You can get the same convenience with the Signal/Whatsapp E2E type of app. All you need additionally is to keep a passphrase stored somewhere. As long as you do that you can have automatic backups that allow you to setup a new device without access to the old one and get all your history back, without losing the E2E encryption benefits by having unencrypted backups on a server somewhere. Signal UX for this is poor though.

Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

#930

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The backup feature is not new.

The article is from 2017 and Signal added backups in 2018.

My Signal message history goes back further than that but maybe the feature was added midway before I switched phones.
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