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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by abruzzi »

zapataband wrote: post #637
read_if_gay_ wrote: post #57

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I started panicking mildly thinking my drive was failing or something. And just before this, I finally managed to fix Spotlight pegging one core at 100% constantly. Next thing, I reboot into a laggy system. macOS is my favorite OS, but the shit I put up with... it's basically an abusive relationship at this point.

My music software became completely useless on catalina, and I was also running into issues with spotlight so I disabled it. I downgraded(painfully) to Mojave and my system is so much speedier. wish I could completely switch to linux.

yeah, but in the end, choice of OS is secondary to choice of application. I'm staying on Mojave for the foreseeable future, but I'll stay with Mac because Logic Pro is not available on any other platform. Sometimes applications are fungible, or you're lucky and your critical application is available on multiple platforms, but sometimes there are only certain applications that can do what you want. I run a MacOS System 7 for software to edit my Yamaha VL-1. I run MacOS 9.2.8 due to hardware drivers for a Korg OasysPCI. I run MacOS 10.6.8 Snow Leopard because is is the last OS that runs rosetta and keeps numerous PowerPC apps that never made the jump to Intel. I'll keep Mojave running when eventually I have to jump to Arm because I'm sure a lot of the software I run won't make the jump to Arm. I'd LOVE to drop any of those systems, but each exists because there are applications that do not have replacement on modern OS'es.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by john_alan »

areoform wrote: post #533
submeta wrote: post #2

Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It's fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25058952 And this is why I won't be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to "no unsigned binaries"), and congrats! Apple…

You can disable this behaviour by listing terminal under Dev tools, and launching from there.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by ryukafalz »

jolux wrote: post #643
jonahbenton wrote: post #629

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Get a Thinkpad, P-series, lots of options. Run Fedora on it. Great machines, great keyboard, 4k screens, good color, goot battery life, lightweight. Everything works. Mac-level price, and worth it.

Aren’t those all huge?

P1 Gen 3 is 0.72" x 14.24" x 9.67", compared to the 2019 15" MBP which is 0.61" x 13.75" x 9.48". Slightly larger? Sure, but I wouldn't call it "huge" if the 15" MBP is what you're used to. It's only 0.11" thicker than the MBP and half an inch longer. (And it weighs less.)

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by syshum »

sgerenser wrote: post #899
quantgenius wrote: post #870

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Get a Thinkpad. I replaced a 2015 MacBook Pro with a Thinkpad P1 Gen2 and love it. The trackpad isn’t as nice. The keyboard is better. Running WSL2 you have a great Unixy development environment in Windows. Or just install Linux. As thin and light as a MacBook Pro. Much better thermals, though still not awesome. Other, somewhat larger Thinkpads have better thermals. You can upgrade your RAM, add 2 SSDs and other peri…

I have that exact laptop (work provided) and I’m not a fan. Trackpad is OK but not nearly as good as my Mac. 4K display sometimes looks amazing but the color accuracy is terrible and there’s a weird speckle texture that I assume comes from the touch overlay. I have a thunderbolt dock that supplies 85w of power but the machine refuses to charge from it and requires connecting the huge external power supply. But the wo…

I am still suprised by the number of people that want trackpad's

If lenovo would come out with a laptop with no trackpad I would be the first to order it, I normally disable the track pad completely..

Traditional mouse or even a trackball are far far better

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by iso1631 »

jiggawatts wrote: post #401
alwillis wrote: post #367

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Welcome to 2020. Because we can't have nice things, Apple has to check that apps are signed with a current certificate for safety and security reasons. OCSP tells the client if the certificate has been revoked or not. Try opening a non-https web page; you'll get a bunch of ominous warnings from all major browsers. Browser certificates need to be OSCP signed for the browser to trust them. You can't even get a new cert…

This used to be true, but neither Chrome nor Firefox actually check CRLs or OCSP that much. They'll accept OCSP-stapling, but that's about it. This is a very serious concern for Enterprise PKI systems: revoking certificates is now virtually impossible. CRLs and OCSP do practically nothing. Google especially has unilaterally decided that Enterprise PKI systems don't matter. They have established a new "standard" calle…

It's a shame you're being downvoted as you're right, CRLs and OCSP do practically nothing _for webbrowsers_

OSCP is flawed because you can block the connection, meaning

1) Your browswer has to accept it (thus an attacker feeding you the bad certificate can bypass OSCP)

2) Your browswer blocks completely (thus DOSsing all connections), and people use another browser

CRLs don't scale - you can't keep a cached list of every revoked cert globally.

However I pull down the CRLs for my internal CA every few hours onto my internal https sites, which rely on a client presenting a valid certificate to connect. If that doesn't get pulled down, I get a warning about it in the monitoring system. When a client with a client certificate connects, I check against my local cache of the CRL, and if it's been revoked, it can't connect.

What problem do you have on your private CA internal network that CRLs fix but browsers don't? Are you that concerned that your server certificates get compromised? You should be working to massively reduce the time those certificate are valid.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by pgt »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #872
mav3rick wrote: post #699

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God the self importance of this community. The world can live without the 1000 people here.

The interesting thing about this community is that technically it could create its own OS. That is a threat to nation state level institutes that want to prevent that.

You know, that’s not a bad idea.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by swiley »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #871
MeinBlutIstBlau wrote: post #139

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I will be a full on linux junkie when that happens.

This is a big conceit everyone holds - that Linux will be an acceptable substitute for MacOS. To be perfectly honest, if Apple shut down their Macbook factories and got out of the computer game entirely, and everyone flocked to Linux, it would be several painful years before Linux would be as usable as MacOS is today. This is why I try out Linux every few years, and file lots of bug reports when I run into issues (mo…

I guess this is where the disagreements about usability on Linux come from. I've been using Linux based OSes since I was a child and IME when you run into brokenness it's almost always the user space (often something flashy from gnome or kde or occasionally freedesktop.org.)

Most things are more than doable on Linux but often you're choosing between stuff that works and stuff that looks pretty.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by Bondi_Blue »

submeta wrote: post #2

Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

OCSP not OSCP

You can also run these commands to disable ocsp (and crl) since it can no longer be accomplished in Keychain Access → Preferences:

  defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.security.revocation.plist CRLStyle None
  defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.security.revocation.plist OCSPStyle None
  defaults write com.apple.security.revocation.plist CRLStyle None
  defaults write com.apple.security.revocation.plist OCSPStyle None

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by choward »

mav3rick wrote: post #699
ls65536 wrote: post #564

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> The HN crowd may seem fringe, but they are living in the future. The other thing that really can't be discounted here is that a lot of the HN crowd are likely the default go-to people in their circle of family and friends for this sort of stuff, and in many cases they may also have major purchasing influence and technical decision making power in their respective businesses. Turning off one of them may be inconsequ…

God the self importance of this community. The world can live without the 1000 people here.

There are more than 1,000 people and it's a sampling of a larger population. There are more developers and technical savvy people out there than just the ones who use HN.
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