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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

bad_user wrote: post #843
TeMPOraL wrote: post #834

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Some technologies would be better off not existing, but I think the root problem is just unrestricted market competition. Without something to keep the bottom from falling out ( regulations), a competitive market is a fearsome optimization force. It will suck out all joy and happiness from any activity, as everyone gets increasingly more creative and willing to sacrifice to squeeze out just a little more marginal pro…

Those optimizations make it possible for prices to keep dropping, for food to be very cheap and plentiful. Global hunger has dropped to an all time low, since 1950 or so, because of that. Yes, squeeze that marginal profit, please. I was born in communism, and guess what, we did not have 20 flavors of yogurt to choose from, or supermarkets for that matter. In Eastern Europe we counted ourselves very lucky to have plai…

What if one brand of yogurt in some variety makes you sneeze and cough, while another brand of the same variety doesn't and that is discontinued?

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

derekp7 wrote: post #755
zzleeper wrote: post #709

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What chain is that?? Sounds amazing..

It's called Woodman's Market https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodman%27s_Markets . Mostly in souteastern Wisconsin, and some in northeastern Illinois. My favorite part of it is the fact that you don't have to take the food out of your cart, put it on the belt, then take the bagged groceries and put it back in your cart again. The front of the cart flips down, and it gets pulled up in front of the cashier who can either…

Keyword according to your link is employee-owned. Just sayin'.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

dooglius wrote: post #400
chongli wrote: post #237

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Was this the essay you were referring to [1]? I think you’re bang on with this comparison. My dad and I have long complained how (for example) grocery stores seem to constantly cancel our favourite products. We know it’s not the manufacturer because the product is still on their website. My dad and I even have a term for the people in the head office who make the decision to phase out our favourite products: spreadsh…

Sounds like the two of you may be "harbinger customers", the interesting economic phenomenon of people who tend to like products that flop.

I've heard of that term before. But when looking at

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Format_war

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_obsolete_technology

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fad

and so on, I fail to see a reason for some of those failures. Seems arbitrary/random to me.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

qcq36 wrote: post #226
tangjurine wrote: post #167

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We're in the middle of transitioning from making decisions based on pure intuition to being purely logical and data-driven... I wonder if that's such a good idea. There was this article a while back I read that talked about how native peoples made poisonous foods edible. Some processes were extremely convoluted and unreasonable, but it worked, and efforts by a "reasonable" man to make the process more efficient would…

There’s something rather extraordinary about this community, in particular, throwing a fit about advertising in products. This discussion has gone from “fuck that guy” — overlooking that almost every employer represented here has one and the larger employers have entire divisions of them — to “capitalism is bad” in three messages. That’s impressive. It’s almost as if the root cause of why these business models are ho…

Hm. Maybe. Maybe capitalism in its current form is bad nonetheless? Or an exploiting sham? How do you explain companies like BlackRock, Inc. and similar being on the boards of almost any important corporation? Isn't that a conflict of interest?

Or to put it another way, they are implementing communism by other means, with the same bad outcomes for the masses.

What difference is "Strategische Konzernentwicklung/corporate development/group development" to a Soviet 5-year plan, aggravated by quarterly reviews and HFT?

Gennadiy Gosplanovich would approve with a hysteric laugh.

I know. Been in several of them. Fortunately got out :)

edit: Of course you could call me a stoned hippie leftover from the 70ies, but that really was before my time. I'd counter that with management is on coke, crack or other medications which influence empathy in a bad way. Simple as that.

(Now playing "Ka-Ching!" with a pitchfork on the karmic harp)

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

throw0101a wrote: post #337
huhtenberg wrote: post #79

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> If I paid 1000s of dollars for an "idiot box" that's supposed to reproduce faithfully the signal that I pass it Just don't connect it to the Internet. The bigger problem is that at some point there will not be any "idiot box" models at all. The TVs will refuse to work if they aren't seeing the Internet. Then we'll be truly fucked.

> Just don't connect it to the Internet. One also has to be cognizant of HDMI Ethernet in case of "unintended" connectivity: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#HDMI_Ethernet_and_Audio_R...

Maybe in about 10 years, or even sooner, when 5G is everywhere, and the IoT-chips are so cheap that it doesn't matter anymore, they are built into every appliance like in new cars now. Always connected by whatever means. What then? Faraday cage?

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Post by garaetjjte »

Liquix wrote: post #555
mywittyname wrote: post #446

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Automobiles already do this without your input.

I think the always-on IoT thing actually makes sense for life-and-death fields such as automotive/medical. There are cases where if an update does not reach the device in time human lives could be at stake. It's definitely not for the consumer's benefit in most cases. No one is going to die because your Smart Keurig or 5G-TV goes unpatched for a month. Hopefully we can avoid the slippery slope and realize that these…

>I think the always-on IoT thing actually makes sense for life-and-death fields such as automotive/medical.

But critical components should be designed as simple as possible, and be thoroughly tested before device release. Releasing garbage and then patching it OTA doesn't really work for safety critical things. Not so long ago cars didn't have capability to upgrade (firmware on mask ROMs) and I don't think something horribly bad happened.

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

CivBase wrote: post #442

There are huge communities of awesome hackers who support build and support operating systems and firmware for phones and routers. Does anything like that exist for so-called "smart" TVs?

There have been around 2010, Samygo and OpenLGtv have been mentioned elsewhere. But they are all bitrotten now, and not applicable to current models anyways.

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Post by alienfilesystem »

CameronNemo wrote: post #771
alienfilesystem wrote: post #634

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Pi-hole. Works like a charm. Also does the same for every device in your house. Moreover, if you don't mind spending an additional $5 a month, set up your Pi-hole in a Digital Ocean droplet and you can blocks ads everywhere YOU happen to be, even on your mobile device.

Running every dns request to a random DO droplet sounds like it would cause latency. Is there not some public DNS option that blocks ads?

There is very little latency, actually. If it just for you and/or your family, there is zero appreciable difference.

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

squarefoot wrote: post #668

Simple slution: don't buy "Smart" TVs, And the day all TVs will be "Smart" just don't connect them to the Internet (and don't leave open hotspots nearby or they'll do by themselves). They're becoming business platforms rather than devices the user can control, just like "Smart" phones and computers with non free operating systems. Anyone remembers that TV screen in the wonderful Idiocracy docu... er.. movie? That is…

Prrrrhhhhrrrrpft (splatter...)

Excellent capture! Personally I'd wish for a "fan-edit" of that, melded with Wall-E :)

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