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Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by azalemeth »

rco8786 wrote: post #897
seesawtron wrote: post #849

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would imagine that accounts of "important" people are handled personally rather than by automated algorithm. As Jack Dorsey points out in this[0] Joe Rogan podcast, the reported tweets by public or algorithm are manually checked at some point. Approx. 4000 employees of Twitter all around the world. Every day 100k (edit: 100M) tweets are sent. The reports of tweets that violate the platform policy are (reported by p…

> Every day 100k tweets are sent When I worked there we handled about ~6k tweets/sec all day every day. (~500,000,000 tweets/day)

What database did you use?

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Post by lliamander »

sethhochberg wrote: post #477
pnako wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the lies are obvious, why do they need "fact checking"?

Because, for better or worse, the sources of truth that normal people historically relied on for their barometer of what is true or not have been democratized by the internet. We live in a world where a substantial number of people believe the earth is flat, that 5G cellular is a mind control scheme, that vaccines cause autism, that COVID-19 was created by a political party, that the concept of climate change is manu…

What a lot of people are realizing now is that these democratized news sources are both sometimes a lot less credible than the corporate media, and sometimes a lot more credible than the corporate media.

When you can have people gather clips of text/video to show a corporate media entity contradicting itself, or hiding relevant facts when reporting on a situation, etc. in real-time, it becomes it becomes clear that it is not merely a bias, but in many cases an agenda which drives them (an agenda which may be political, or may merely be the pursuit of ratings and scarce advertising dollars).

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Post by runarberg »

throwawaysea wrote: post #542
tomp wrote: post #171

This is amazing news, and I hope Twitter adopts this policy for all rules violations. Much better than deleting tweet or banning accounts, this lets people decide what they want to see. (Except for obvious spammers etc. which should probably be banned.) Even better would be if there were user-configurable "lists", whereby you could decide upfront what you want / don't want to see (like many sites do right now with NS…

We can hope Twitter adopts and enforces policies equally across the board, but they won't and I don't think they can either. As an example of how they won't do so, consider that there are people literally organizing violent riots and destruction of property on Twitter right now, and they have not been banned or had their tweets/accounts hidden. Ilhan Omar's daughter was caught doing so herself, amplifying rioting sup…

Rioting, looting, and even torching buildings is not the close to the same level of violence as police killings, driving down protestors, or threatening people with guns. Tweets endorsing or even glorifying the former don’t come close to be as dangerous as tweets excusing the latter. Don’t pretend like these two are equivalent.

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Post by seesawtron »

generj wrote: post #807
seesawtron wrote: post #327

In 2017 a rogue twitter employee suspended Donal Trump's account on last day at the job. Did the world politics change in that downtime?

The account was only suspended for like 17 minutes, and it’s not clear the POTUS even noticed. So no, no impact to world politics.

One week of A/B testing would an ideal experiment for social scientists studying impact of world leader's tweets on the world news. Almost a utopia.

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Post by djaque »

082349872349872 wrote: post #110

One can also check easily-discoverable recent US military policy https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23347453 to discover that those who think these things through don't condone "looting ⊃ shooting". Bonaparte was a fan of the "whiff of grape" https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_royaliste_du_13_v... but we all know how that ended.

I don't think anyone was arguing that Trump was someone that "thinks these things through"

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Post by arrrg »

stronglikedan wrote: post #319
quietthrow wrote: post #277

Once again! Bravo Jack and the Twitter team! Thank you taking a stand against bullying.

Now if only they'd give Kaepernick's tweet [0] equal treatment, to be even-handed. [0] https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1266046129906552832?s...

Even nonviolent protest was never intended to be peaceful. Not in they way many people would use the word “peace”, anyway.

“I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: ‘I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action’; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a ‘more convenient season.’”

That’s MLK in his letter from a Birmingham jail. Who was completely devoted to nonviolence. Even he made abundantly clear that nonviolence does not equal a lack of pressure or tension.

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Post by baq »

eximius wrote: post #892
scaredtobeme wrote: post #843

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The argument is that it's getting there. It's the leading platform for public debate in the US right now. Journalists spend their days refreshing their Twitter feed, so the effect isn't just in the size of Twitter's platform but its influence.

Twitter is a plague on public discourse. We'd be better off as a society if it were never invented. If I knew how to put the genie back in the bottle, I would advocate for it.

it's easy enough - make it a paid-for service and regulate - read ban - free versions.

not going to happen because apparently people paying with their attention instead of dollars in manipulative ways is just fine. the argument goes that they can always not read it, but that's a false dichotomy in social networks and why i'd like to see twitter, google and facebook get labeled as utilities.

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