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Facebook to ban white nationalist content
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalist content
#922Anybody expected freedom of speech in Facebook?
Re: Facebook to ban white nationalist content
#923> Going forward, while people will still be able to demonstrate pride in their ethnic heritage, we will not tolerate praise or support for white nationalism and separatism. So you can praise and support your ethnic nationality, as long as you're not white.
You can't understand what White Nationalism and Separatism if you're happy to come conflate it with "praise for your ethnic identity".
The problem is that there is no objective distinction. If I don't understand what it means to you, it likely means something else to me.
For example, if someone praised their white race, a lot of people would consider that white nationalism. Especially in the context of, say, a national news story.
Re: Facebook to ban white nationalist content
#924My question is this: Are they also going to ban other ethno nationalist movements? Last I checked, the Hebrew Israelites (a black nationalist and anti semitic group) are on FB. They believe that the people who currently identify as Jews are evil impostors.
It was odd they are only going after white nationalism. I have the same question. What about all the other nationalist movements?
> It was odd they are only going after white nationalism.
They aren't. They went after ISIS years ago, and they've recently been trying to go after accounts contributing to the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar, as a sibling comment noted and provided a link for.
If Hebrew Israelites start driving cars into crowds or shooting up churches and synagogues, I'd hope Facebook goes after them, too.
Re: Facebook to ban white nationalist content
#925Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What do you think would happen if these "private companies" with such deep hooks into our communication infrastructure suddenly decided to remove all data associated to the Republican Party? For that matter, the Democratic Party? They wouldn't do that, because there would be justified public outcry. Luckily, as moral agents, we humans are capable of differentiating "general political party" from "white nationalists…
Are you sure? Do we even know, for sure, what "white nationalist" means? I'm white, and I favor a government that's principally oriented toward advancing this nation's interests. Am I a white nationalist?
Yeah it means neo-Nazis who believe in the innate supremacy of the white race. If you’re one of them I want you to be deplatformed immediately and without sentimental hand-wringing about liberal platitudes.
This will be an ongoing project and will require constant tweaking and adjustment, but I’m all for their removal from the public sphere.
There are underlying economic and social issues leading to the reemergence of this worldview that need to be dealt with urgently and with peacemaking intention. Still, in the meantime this kind of thought if unchecked leads to genocide and must be stopped.
Re: Facebook to ban white nationalist content
#926Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What do you think would happen if these "private companies" with such deep hooks into our communication infrastructure suddenly decided to remove all data associated to the Republican Party? For that matter, the Democratic Party? They wouldn't do that, because there would be justified public outcry. Luckily, as moral agents, we humans are capable of differentiating "general political party" from "white nationalists…
> we humans are capable of differentiating "general political party" from "white nationalists", and can target the latter and not the former. We’re also good at being boiled slowly, like frogs.
Which is debunked.
Re: Facebook to ban white nationalist content
#927At what point do such things change into a public discourse problem? Do we wait until it can be shown that companies such as Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc. influenced elections because they refused to serve information from a candidate they didn't like? If we aren't already there, it's not long before it is. What do you think would happen if these "private companies" with such deep hooks into our communication infra…
I don't see Germany tolerating any support of National Socialism in their public sphere and rightly so ... some ideologies just too bloody abhorent and against the public good.
For now. The passing of time and new generations will result in the loss of the lessons of the past.
Re: Facebook to ban white nationalist content
#928interesting 180 degree turn for them. will they also stop banning people for calling out nazis?
Re: Facebook to ban white nationalist content
#929At what point do such things change into a public discourse problem? Do we wait until it can be shown that companies such as Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc. influenced elections because they refused to serve information from a candidate they didn't like? If we aren't already there, it's not long before it is. What do you think would happen if these "private companies" with such deep hooks into our communication infra…
slippery slope.
at the moment there is no dialogue. commenting on white supremacist content on facebook and calling it out currently will get you banned.
this statement purports that they will be more balanced from now on
Re: Facebook to ban white nationalist content
#930At what point do such things change into a public discourse problem? Do we wait until it can be shown that companies such as Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc. influenced elections because they refused to serve information from a candidate they didn't like? If we aren't already there, it's not long before it is. What do you think would happen if these "private companies" with such deep hooks into our communication infra…
> What do you think would happen if these "private companies" with such deep hooks into our communication infrastructure suddenly decided to remove all data associated to the Republican Party? For that matter, the Democratic Party? They wouldn't do that, because there would be justified public outcry. Luckily, as moral agents, we humans are capable of differentiating "general political party" from "white nationalists…
I can give you hundreds of examples of people being accused of being a white nationalist without any merit to it. To such a degree that this word almost lost its meaning.
edit: Tim Pool for example was already accused. It will clearly be used to shut down unwelcome dissent.