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Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

#912

Framing this as needing "consent" is deeply misguided. It's as silly as claiming that Microsoft Word installed an English language spellcheck dictionary without your consent. It's just part of the software. You consented to installing the software and having it autoupdate. That covers it. Now we can argue whether or not it's an appropriate amount of disk space or bandwidth to use, but that's just a reasonable practic…

When you decide to build autoupdate features into your product, in some way you are building trust that you wont break expectations with your users. If google wants to pull a microsoft and try to force me to use another of their products I dont want to use, they are welcome to die in the same way as IE did.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

#914

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think the energy cost to transfer has dropped by 10 X in eight years? Why?

Eight years ago my internet was using a current over a copper wire. Now it's light through glass. The latter is much more efficient especially over longer distances.

But processing and retranssmission of the data at every network node still takes energy

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

#915

If Chrome has the #optimization-guide-on-device-model and #prompt-api-for-gemini-nano flags enabled, either because it's part of some Origin Trial / Early Stable Release or something, then web pages will have access to the new Prompt API which allows any webpage to initiate the (one-time) download of the ~2.7 GiB CPU or ~4.0 GiB GPU model using LanguageModel.create() https://developer.chrome.com/docs/ai/prompt-api Wh…

Also note the Mozilla standards position on this API: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1213#i...

Or this summary on its status:

> Mozilla: Opposed

> WebKit: Opposed

> Microsoft: Several concerns

> W3C TAG: Several concerns

> Developers: Mostly negative

From https://mastodon.social/@jaffathecake/116527007495775507

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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> most alternatives, until recently, were not great Curious to know, what viable alternatives did you discover?

Gmaps WV while using VPN. Download from Fdroid. Its miles ahead of something like Osmand , which i really, really, tried to like for a year, but its a UX disaster (i could never ever figure it out)

Is that a webview loading Gmaps? That's not what I expected to call "degoogling", haha.

The OSMand UX is clearly not made for casual use, but Comaps is basically the main user-friendly application. It is missing a couple of commonly-used features though, most notably traffic information, which of course Google bases on data collected from its users.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

#918
I have been thinking about this for 24 hours now and I have to say this has me mad as hell. Software companies treat the users like fucking cattle to be led to whatever slaughter will be most profitable this quarter. Capital has fully inverted the hopes and promise of software I glimpsed in my youth.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

#919

Framing this as needing "consent" is deeply misguided. It's as silly as claiming that Microsoft Word installed an English language spellcheck dictionary without your consent. It's just part of the software. You consented to installing the software and having it autoupdate. That covers it. Now we can argue whether or not it's an appropriate amount of disk space or bandwidth to use, but that's just a reasonable practic…

Incorrect. What you consent to, is the software, with its intended use and design. It is not consent to allowing the vendor to install what ever software, for what ever use case, of infinite size, forever. With your interpretation, MS could install a torrent client, child porn or what ever, and that cleraly shows that your interpretation leads to a reductio ad absurdum. When I download a web browser, it is reasonable…

> This is beyond dispute.

My top-level comment has stayed the #1 comment on this post since I wrote it, and currently has over 300 upvotes. In fact, it is probably my most upvoted comment of all time, which is quite the surprise to me!

So it is extremely clear this is not "beyond dispute". A valid dispute can exist even if you're personally not happy about it.

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