DeepSeek v4

Post by gxs » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 1:52 AM UTC

chvid wrote: post #322

The incredible arrogance and hybris of the American initiated tech war - it is just a beautiful thing to see it slowly fall apart. The US-China contest aside - it is in the application layer llms will show their value. There the field, with llm commoditization and no clear monopolies, is wide open. There was a point in time where it looked like llms would the domain of a single well guarded monopoly - that would have…

Post by hnfong » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 2:28 AM UTC

roughly wrote: post #789

satvikpendem wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't keep up. Much like with news, you'll know when you need to know, because someone else will tell you first.

This one’s been particularly hard to sit out because the executive and managerial class are absolutely mainlining this stuff and pushing it hard on the rest of the organization, and so whether or not I want to keep up, I need to, because my job is to actually make stuff work and this stuff is a borderline existential risk to the quality of the systems I’m responsible for and rely on.

Post by hnfong » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 2:32 AM UTC

vrganj wrote: post #148

gbnwl wrote: post #9

I’m deeply interested and invested in the field but I could really use a support group for people burnt out from trying to keep up with everything. I feel like we’ve already long since passed the point where we need AI to help us keep up with advancements in AI.

It honestly has all kinda felt like more of the same ever since maybe GPT4? New model comes out, has some nice benchmarks, but the subjective experience of actually using it stays the same. Nothing's really blown my mind since. Feels like the field has stagnated to a point where only the enthusiasts care.

Post by replwoacause » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 3:05 AM UTC

kccqzy wrote: post #670

throwa356262 wrote: post #217

Seriously, why can't huge companies like OpenAI and Google produce documentation that is half this good?? https://api-docs.deepseek.com/guides/thinking_mode No BS, just a concise description of exactly what I need to write my own agent.

I spent only two minutes reading their documentation and it’s clear no one did any proofreading and it’s full of mistakes made by non-native speakers. Example: the second sentence on the first page says “softwares” but “software” is a mass noun that cannot be pluralized. Example: the third page about tokens has some zipped code to “calculate the token usage for your intput/output” and obviously “intput” should be “in…

Post by digitaltrees » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 4:06 AM UTC

otagekki wrote: post #894

digitaltrees wrote: post #863

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am all for monopoly breakdown. But there is an argument that this is anticompetitive strategy designed to undercut the commercial viability of the other labs. In free trade negotiations this is called “dumping”: selling a product below cost at a high volume to gain market share by driving competition out of the market and then raising prices when you’ve outlasted them.

Unfortunately Uber and the likes have been doing this but nobody batted an eye